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Unread 10-30-2014, 01:56 PM
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I'm just finishing up Lucha Underground's very first episode and this has been a really fun hour. I won't post any spoilers, but I figured I'd leave some of my thoughts from the show.

I'm a little sick of heel authority figures, but Dario Cueto's character seems different. Kind of comes across like a drug cartel leader.
Matt Striker and Vampiro are the announce team and I've been a huge fan of Striker behind the booth for years so this pleased me greatly. I always liked Vampiro as a wrestler. So far they are a fun, but not distracting announce team.

Chavo Guerrero Jr actually wrestled like Chavo instead of trying to wrestle like Eddie.

Matt Cross's Son of Havoc character looks sweet, simple, but cool. Striker referencing Charlie Brown and Red River Jack to describe his attire was dead on.

Main event is awesome. Prince Puma(Ricochet) and Johnny Mundo(John Morrison) work great together and put on a strong showing for the show's first ever show.

Production values for the show are awesome. The "Temple" is a cool venue and the ring has a very cool look. The Aztec backstory for Prince Puma is unique and I dig the return to having a "character driven" type wrestling program. Prince Puma's attire is awesome.

Anyone else give it a shot?
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Did not know Son of Havoc was M-Dogg at all (in hindsight how did the beard not give it away?). I really dug the episode.

The presentation is fantastic in that it's not shot like a typical wrestling company with the dingy arena and bleacher seats, but the camera work and everything else is top notch are really fresh (as opposed to WWE who has stayed the same and TNA who is based on WWE with slight changes).

To me the company feels like a TV show centered around wrestling (not a wrestling show on TV) except in most TV shows centered around sports you never get to see the actual action and this was the best of both worlds. Puma vs Morrison was a fun match and great to establish the company. No doubt they could do even better with some heat and sustained storytelling but they both worked what was essentially an exhibition to perfection
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it looks amazing i take it i can't watch it in the UK, is it an El Rey exclusive

Ricky Banderas is Mil Muertes i take it, looks so good
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it looks amazing i take it i can't watch it in the UK, is it an El Rey exclusive

Ricky Banderas is Mil Muertes i take it, looks so good
Yes he is. It is an El Rey exclusive, but check your PMs.
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This is the first time I've heard of Lucha Underground and I am immediately intrigued by this thread.
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Lucha Underground eh?...Hmmmm, I'll take a look it.
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I'm just finishing up Lucha Underground's very first episode and this has been a really fun hour. I won't post any spoilers, but I figured I'd leave some of my thoughts from the show.

I'm a little sick of heel authority figures, but Dario Cueto's character seems different. Kind of comes across like a drug cartel leader.
Matt Striker and Vampiro are the announce team and I've been a huge fan of Striker behind the booth for years so this pleased me greatly. I always liked Vampiro as a wrestler. So far they are a fun, but not distracting announce team.

Chavo Guerrero Jr actually wrestled like Chavo instead of trying to wrestle like Eddie.

Matt Cross's Son of Havoc character looks sweet, simple, but cool. Striker referencing Charlie Brown and Red River Jack to describe his attire was dead on.

Main event is awesome. Prince Puma(Ricochet) and Johnny Mundo(John Morrison) work great together and put on a strong showing for the show's first ever show.

Production values for the show are awesome. The "Temple" is a cool venue and the ring has a very cool look. The Aztec backstory for Prince Puma is unique and I dig the return to having a "character driven" type wrestling program. Prince Puma's attire is awesome.

Anyone else give it a shot?
The best description I've heard of Cueto is as a FarCry Villain.

Lucha Underground just keeps reminding me of Eisen-Verse LAX wrestling project that never got rolling. From What I hear the shows just keep getting better and better.
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From what I read, they had contractual/scheduling problems with the first few tapings that didnt allow for a few Mexican wrestlers to make the shows and they show up for the second round. I'm definitely intrigued in seeing how the company takes shape
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i like that they shoot it on actual film and not digital video like wwe /roh/tna

the presentation is really cool. it gives you that kinda grindhouse feel to it. and its a tv series within a wrestling universe and not just a wrestling show on tv. ricochette was awesome as prince puma against johnny nitro/john morrison now known in lucha underground as johnny mundo.
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I watched the show and I really liked it, the production is really smooth and unlike anything I have ever seen from a wrestling show.

They aren't afraid to be different which in this day and age every new company seems to want to emulate others.

The presentation was very well done and easy to follow, I loved the fact that aside from the three matches they took the time to explain the history of Lucha and the promotion so that new viewers would be able to familiarize themselves with it and not feel lost while doing so.

The main event was fantastic I wasn't sure about having Johnny Nitro (Mundo) in the company and how he would fit in but I am pleasantly surprised by how well he worked. That's not a knock on Nitro it's just saying that I wasn't quite sure how he would fit into to a Lucha company but his style is very fitting for it.

Something on Commentary that really bothered me was the fact that Matt Striker mentioned that Johnny Mundo (Nitro) hadn't wrestled a match in three years. This fact was wrong because he wrestled for Squared Circle Wrestling (2CW) on April 20th of last year.

Aside from that one slip up from Striker I didn't mind the commentary at all, I used to not like Striker in WWE because he came off as a nerd (which is what they probably wanted) but on this show Striker came across as very knowledgeable and really helped the new fans immerse themselves in the product and get familiar with it in case they hadn't ever seen it.

Striker also sounded motivated and passionate about the wrestling something in WWE I feel he was lacking not because of his faults but because WWE commentators are often over produced (see the current commentary team for WWE and how terrible they are). Wasn't really that into Vampiro as he seemed out of place but it was what it was and I'm willing to tolerate it because he's not that bad and he could get better.

Anyways that's enough of my ranting, in closing though I'm definitely going to make this a part of my weekly wrestling viewing because as I stated earlier it's something that's new, fresh, and exciting.

Also I was live tweeting the show on Wednesday night and was able to get a follow on twitter from the official verified Lucha Underground twitter account which I thought was very cool and completely unexpected.

Lastly if you are watching the show keep an eye out for Ivelisse Velez who will be a part of the show in the future and who is probably the best pound for pound female wrestler in the united states. The WWE HAD her and I don't know why they didn't capitalize on it but they released her and she was able to gain experience and get really good while in other promotions.
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In fairness I heard him say Mundo hasn't wrestled a major match in 3 years.
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I found a way to watch it, too and liked the show overall. The "temple" looks great, exactly how an arena should look like for a company that has "underground" in its name.

The matches were great, especially the opener and the main event. I didn't care too much about the intergender match. To me, it needs a bit of getting used to.

But am I the only one who didn't like the way the office/backstage segments were presented? They reminded me too much of a tv series or a movie scene.
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I found a way to watch it, too and liked the show overall. The "temple" looks great, exactly how an arena should look like for a company that has "underground" in its name.

The matches were great, especially the opener and the main event. I didn't care too much about the intergender match. To me, it needs a bit of getting used to.

But am I the only one who didn't like the way the office/backstage segments were presented? They reminded me too much of a tv series or a movie scene.
On the intergender match, I feel it was short just to get viewers used to the idea that there isn't a separate women's division. I loved the way Striker and Vamp acted like it was a normal occurrence as opposed to something strange.

I can see where you're coming from on the backstage segments. The music and lighting make them come across as scenes from a soap opera. The melodramatic acting didn't help either, but I think it'll be something that will improve with time as they find their identity.
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In fairness I heard him say Mundo hasn't wrestled a major match in 3 years.
Oh okay that makes a bit more sense then, that's honestly not what I heard him say but if he did in fact say that I'll take your word for it. I have a habit of tuning out commentary on any wrestling show I am watching and I really shouldn't do that but it happens considering how bad WWE commentary is these days. I keep forgetting that there is good commentary that still exists within the wrestling world due to the example set by the biggest company in existence.
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I'm just finishing up Lucha Underground's very first episode and this has been a really fun hour. I won't post any spoilers, but I figured I'd leave some of my thoughts from the show.

I'm a little sick of heel authority figures, but Dario Cueto's character seems different. Kind of comes across like a drug cartel leader.
Matt Striker and Vampiro are the announce team and I've been a huge fan of Striker behind the booth for years so this pleased me greatly. I always liked Vampiro as a wrestler. So far they are a fun, but not distracting announce team.

Chavo Guerrero Jr actually wrestled like Chavo instead of trying to wrestle like Eddie.

Matt Cross's Son of Havoc character looks sweet, simple, but cool. Striker referencing Charlie Brown and Red River Jack to describe his attire was dead on.

Main event is awesome. Prince Puma(Ricochet) and Johnny Mundo(John Morrison) work great together and put on a strong showing for the show's first ever show.

Production values for the show are awesome. The "Temple" is a cool venue and the ring has a very cool look. The Aztec backstory for Prince Puma is unique and I dig the return to having a "character driven" type wrestling program. Prince Puma's attire is awesome.

Anyone else give it a shot?
Just finished watching the first episode and this pretty much echoes my thoughts. Thought it was a great start. The only thing I disliked was the Chavo-Blue Demon match though even it furthered storylines with the later backstage segment (Chavo's bitterness, Cueto finding someone else to deal with Blue Demon). The backstage stuff worked well in fitting into the vibe they're going for with this so no complaints there. I actually found it much more engaging then some of the tired backstage segments churned out by WWE.

I was expecting to find the heel authority figure to feel samey but Cueto did a great job and felt fresh in the role so kudos for that too.

Looking forward to episode 2.
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