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If that's how "active" NGW is I may cut them myself. Also personally I'm holding off activating World of Sport in mine untill they get a second series announced/confirmed, everything they have now is in the bag so they could continue or just cut their losses and just bail.

If you are looking for options

- EU Italian Championship Wrestling - 41 shows since 1/1/2017
- AU Pro Wrestling Australia - 13 shows since 1/1/2017
- AU Explosive Pro Wrestling - 20 shows since 1/1/2017

The Australian ones are basically the top ones for the region, their the ones that Progress worked with them they toured, might just want to have them on your radar.
This is perfect Who. Thanks so much. I was thinking at least one of the Aussie promotions just to provide a balance to Melbourne City Wrestling for sure.
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PWA is going to be your better option first, they have more of their rosters info floating aabout on cagematch. ICW has a lot of info about on their wrestlers on cagematch as well but downside is you would need to build the entire region, both are promotions I have active in my data so feel free to copy over anything you need, especally as I know you'll likely be tweeking the stats and improving on my generic set ups.

There are a few other options but I don't think they would be big enough to be viable, how I see it the big draws are America, UK and Japan, everywhere else as long as you have name/large feds not many people would be bothered either way.
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PWA is going to be your better option first, they have more of their rosters info floating aabout on cagematch. ICW has a lot of info about on their wrestlers on cagematch as well but downside is you would need to build the entire region, both are promotions I have active in my data so feel free to copy over anything you need, especally as I know you'll likely be tweeking the stats and improving on my generic set ups.

There are a few other options but I don't think they would be big enough to be viable, how I see it the big draws are America, UK and Japan, everywhere else as long as you have name/large feds not many people would be bothered either way.
Awesome, thanks a bunch! I will take a look at those promotions for sure.

Once I have the match ratio types set for each company I can throw that your way as well before release if you want to update. Dr_Avalanche and I did it for all the Japanese companies a few updates ago for Fleisch and when you are reviewing the AI's shows it "feels" so much more like a real show they would run.

For example, NJPW:
1v1 - 28
2v2 - 28
3v3 - 44
Triangle - 0
4-Way - 0

I plan to do this for all the companies in this mod so feel free to take liberally as well once complete.
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That would be handy, thanks.

Out of curiosity what's wrong with Ice Ribbon, from what I've seen they are fairly active although I do have a bias considering it was Ice Ribbon, Stardom & Wave that I caught the joshi bug, I don't follow it much these days but tend to know what's going on, I have been tempted to switch it out for Sendai recently and have Stardom, Sendai and TJP as my key joshi promotions.

It's all about striking that balance of number and types of promotions per region, I don't like flooding a region with promotions doing the same thing.
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Pwa incorporates pwWA as well and that means many of the workers are already in the mod
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That would be handy, thanks.

Out of curiosity what's wrong with Ice Ribbon, from what I've seen they are fairly active although I do have a bias considering it was Ice Ribbon, Stardom & Wave that I caught the joshi bug, I don't follow it much these days but tend to know what's going on, I have been tempted to switch it out for Sendai recently and have Stardom, Sendai and TJP as my key joshi promotions.

It's all about striking that balance of number and types of promotions per region, I don't like flooding a region with promotions doing the same thing.
Someone like PuroJoshi or Dr_Avalanche might be able to give you a better read since I don't follow them as closely as a Sendai or Oz Academy, but my read on Ice Ribbon is:

1) They are kind of stuck doing things like a 2012 Joshi promotion. They do all the skits, games, etc... so if you catch them on a night that isn't "serious" wrestling it can spoil your view on them. Dr_A live commented on a show he was watching in our Slack chat from an outdoor venue and it was just bananas. They started playing baseball, throwing water on the crowd, just nuts. The unfortunate part is that if that kind of stuff you are into a place like Stardom does it better based on their talent and it doesn't overshadow the great matches they put on.

That said, their "serious" wrestling events look like a great super-indy work-rate show so if you catch them on the right night, you'll be blown away by the top of the card.

2) Their main event talent is really impressive. A Tsukasa Fujimoto or Risa Sera would fit right in to any company that features women and be able to hang and excel at a main event level.

3) Tsukushi going all stabby-stabby on Kagetsu last year was a big blow in that Ice was building her up to be one of their main pieces (in addition to Sera and Yukihi). They have kind of hit the reset button with her this year, but it would be like if a Reigns or Hashimoto got caught in "legal troubles" for their promotions.

I like Ice and they are a potential addition to the data, but if I had to rank Joshi companies right now it would be:

In Japan (based on how they draw for big shows):
1) Oz Academy
2) Sendai
3) Stardom
4) TJP

Rest of world (based on familiarity):
1) Stardom
2) TJP
3) Sendai
4) Oz

Personally, Sendai is my far and away top Joshi company for what I "like" in that they have great matches and just enough "gaga" to keep the undercard stuff fun (looking at you Eiger). I'm a self-professed Meiko mark though, so anyone who has seen Dr_A and I's Joshi dynasty shouldn't be surprised.
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I like Ice and they are a potential addition to the data, but if I had to rank Joshi companies right now it would be:

In Japan (based on how they draw for big shows):
1) Oz Academy
2) Sendai
3) Stardom
4) TJP

Rest of world (based on familiarity):
1) Stardom
2) TJP
3) Sendai
4) Oz

Personally, Sendai is my far and away top Joshi company for what I "like" in that they have great matches and just enough "gaga" to keep the undercard stuff fun (looking at you Eiger). I'm a self-professed Meiko mark though, so anyone who has seen Dr_A and I's Joshi dynasty shouldn't be surprised.
Hmmm I think TJP is 4th on both lists to be honest. Based on the various news sites I frequent there always seems to be more Sendai and Oz news than TJP. Actually I think TJP is 5th behind Ice Ribbon when it comes to overseas awareness. Admittedly I know Oz and Sendai more because of Alex Lee sending out messages I can actually understand.
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Hmmm I think TJP is 4th on both lists to be honest. Based on the various news sites I frequent there always seems to be more Sendai and Oz news than TJP. Actually I think TJP is 5th behind Ice Ribbon when it comes to overseas awareness. Admittedly I know Oz and Sendai more because of Alex Lee sending out messages I can actually understand.
Yeah, I think your right when thinking about it. It really is kind of:

Stardom
...
Everyone else

When looking at it from an outside Japan perspective. Joshi City or Enziguiri Puro do cover the others more than TJP for sure.

TJP being a part of DDT Universe probably means more people actually watch the TJP shows than the rest of the “everyone else” category though (or at least have the opportunity to).

Sendai with their new streaming service and more coverage in written form could/should/I hope separate themselves from the pack a bit in the future.
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Southside are a UK promotion that run more than one show a month in some cases. They use talent that you will likely already have in other UK companies, and also use Impact talent as well.

If you're interested, I can provide a roster, schedule and title history. This is only a small suggestion, and I don't know whether you'd be interested, but the offer is there. I appreciate you're likely very busy.

Appreciate the hard work.

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Unread 07-31-2018, 08:28 AM
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NGW have run more shows than 6 since the start of 2017- particularly over the summer they run a lot of "Holiday Camp" shows, so what is on Cagematch regarding NGW isn't entirely accurate.
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Unread 07-31-2018, 08:48 AM
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NGW have run more shows than 6 since the start of 2017- particularly over the summer they run a lot of "Holiday Camp" shows, so what is on Cagematch regarding NGW isn't entirely accurate.
Thanks for the heads up. On NGW’s site I see 10 non-proving ground shows in that time frame. Still low for me to include when there are others running 50+ shows and drawing houses over 1000 in other areas. I think they will still be out for now, but I will review at a later date.
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If you need one any more promotions to fill EU, then take a look at Spain/Portugal. There's CTW in Portugal, and RIOT and WhiteWolf Wrestling, which share the same roster kind of.
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If you need one any more promotions to fill EU, then take a look at Spain/Portugal. There's CTW in Portugal, and RIOT and WhiteWolf Wrestling, which share the same roster kind of.
WhiteWolf is an utter pig to find info on outside Team WhiteWolf, take it from me and I've tried adding all I can from their roster.
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WhiteWolf is an utter pig to find info on outside Team WhiteWolf, take it from me and I've tried adding all I can from their roster.
Yeah, I can see why it'd be an issue, along with a few of them being exclusive to those companies. Although, they do have a Pivotshare now so maybe that would end up making things handy for anyone wanting to take a stab.
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I for one am very hyped for the joshi scene to be expanded on and paid more attention to. Always wanted to run a Proper Stardom or Sendai game.
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