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The WWE needs to go back in time and have more storylines for for non main eventers that way they can build up more wrestlers than one or two at a time. About a month ago they had the strongest tag team division in about 10 years then they start breaking up most of the teams. They have some good talent that they don't use properly or enough. For example Dolph Ziggler the crowd loves him but he's never in any hunt for a title or has any good story lines. At least the Diva division seems to be getting better. Also they need to bring back War Games that was the best match WCW had and would be cool to see Evolution and Kane vs. The Shield and Daniel Bryan in War Games.
The biggest question with that is, can creative can come up with enough stories for more of the roster without producing wrestlecrap on a regular basis? A War Games match seems possible though, I've read before that Hunter is a huge NWA mark and has been pulling for a War Games-type match for years.
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Look at the comments on Bleacher Report and Cageside Seats. I'm not the only one raving about how good Smackdown was. Perhaps not the best this year but close to it. The main reason: The successful booking of the Shield as babyfaces and Cesaro getting a great match out of Swagger. And there were weren't any bad segments.

My counterpoint to the "oh no not another handicap match" argument: It was supposed to be 11 vs 3 as the Shield got the Authority treatment. But the Shield are 3 men and smarter than Maddox & Vicki who were in charge with Evolution absent. They took out Maddox and 6 of their opponents in highly entertaining segments, which also served to give the show a nice structure. BNB hightailed it because he cares more about the IC Title hunt. So it was really only The Shield vs Ryback, Del Rio, Sandow (who's hit rock bottom) and Titus (who's inexperienced). The Shield were too good. Perfect booking from start to finish, IMO.
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I disagree completely and you can still focus on the shield throughout the night and still having them cause havoc backstage without the handicap premise. Handicap matches sh loud let be a weekly thing it's gimmicky and the matches themselves are rarely any good. They should have still been pissed about the last handicap match and taken r even g e for that. Or what about t dying to split them apart in three singles matches since so much of their gimmick is the team aspect. I don't really look to cage side seats and bleacher report for anything. A guy on bleacher report was just predicting random CM punk stuff a day or two ago. Again if this was the best show its more of an example of how far the gap in quality is between two shows that for a decade were damn near equal shows.
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Without the Handicap match The Shield would have been acting overtly heelish taking out those wrestlers. Granted, they could have played up a revenge/justice angle but the focus would have been on the events of Raw. The handicap premise gave them cause to dish out justice in advance to the heels and have the audience cheer them for it.

It was also a nice swerve because like most people, I wasn't looking forward to an 11 vs 3 handicap match and had no idea the Shield would turn the tables in such an impactful and entertaining way. The other swerve was Emma and Santino doing their entrance only for Fandango to be attacked, which made me cheer the Shield for saving me from a match I didn't want to see.

I thought it demonstrated attention to detail from the Creative team. As a whole it was booked better than the average Raw/Smackdown, especially in terms of focus. Raw in particular often falls victim to being too scattered in its focus and containing lots of filler. Smackdown tends to fare better with the shorter runtime. This particular show didn't even most of the upper midcard/main event wrestlers available (Cena, Bryan, Orton, HHH, Steph, Batista, Kane, Sheamus) to work with.

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I disagree completely on the handicap match. I still believe that singles matches with Vickie trying to divide and conquer this TEAM via singles matches and or having them get revenge for Monday doing the same attacks they did would have been much more effective than another handicap match. Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way. To each their own I still think with there being less than three months worth of smackdown this year that citing any show as a potential smackdown of the year is a bit overzealous and ultimately a mute point. If I were giving this show a grade with ten scale I still maintain its a 5.5 or a 6. A decent efficient average show. That being said I'm not interested in much with regards to extreme rules and I'm looking forward to the story progression when they wrap up the remainder of the WM feuds.
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I disagree completely on the handicap match. I still believe that singles matches with Vickie trying to divide and conquer this TEAM via singles matches and or having them get revenge for Monday doing the same attacks they did would have been much more effective than another handicap match. Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way. To each their own I still think with there being less than three months worth of smackdown this year that citing any show as a potential smackdown of the year is a bit overzealous and ultimately a mute point. If I were giving this show a grade with ten scale I still maintain its a 5.5 or a 6. A decent efficient average show. That being said I'm not interested in much with regards to extreme rules and I'm looking forward to the story progression when they wrap up the remainder of the WM feuds.
Splitting them up is probably the next part of the feud and if someone's going to do it it'll be Triple H. The show was basically just to let The Shield be badass and to get clips of Raw.
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Anyways Bray Wyatt everything for ever and ever.

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Yeah, that might be my favorite Bray Wyatt moment ever. And that's saying something because he has consistently been the highlight of Raw and Smackdown for the last several months.
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That's it, Bray Wyatt is the new Raven.
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That's it, Bray Wyatt is the new Raven.
PG version.
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PG version.
Yeah what he really needs is blood and curse words

Then and only then can he be half as good at speaking as Raven
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Yeah what he really needs is blood and curse words

Then and only then can he be half as good at speaking as Raven
No, just being a little bit loose. It seems to me Wyatt is not completely natural when speaks. Probably it's the character he portrays that limits his promo abilities.
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I cracked up during the Sandow segment. It was way more entertaining than seeing him be squashed again in an actual match.

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No, just being a little bit loose. It seems to me Wyatt is not completely natural when speaks. Probably it's the character he portrays that limits his promo abilities.
I couldnt disagree with you more. When I noticed those early bray wyatt NXT promos I felt like we had something special brewing. The way that man made the audience believe in that character was unprecedented in modern wrestling.

He's developed the character so well. To the point that a guy who was in NXT this time last year is a true nemesis to the top guy in the company. He's probably the most believable character on the show, and most of these guys are playing themselves lol.

"PG" is not what holds most of these guys back.
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Yeah, PG isn't what's wrong with the company, bad writing is.

Still though, there's a lot of good in WWE right now and Bray Wyatt is near the top of that. His promo skills are just insane.
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