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Unread 09-11-2019, 05:11 AM
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This may be the dumbest request or suggestion ever but, I would love to be able to start a game with cleared out rosters and then have a fantasy draft. From a logic perspective I get that there would probably be advanced rules (Popularity eligibility, location, roster size etc.) but I would settle for the brand draft screens being applied to the whole database as an option.
It could be done by being able to delete every contract at once, then assigning them to workers one at a time.
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Unread 09-12-2019, 07:22 AM
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LOVE that idea of someone defending a title 10 times to earn a cool little note in the annals of history. That's a really neat touch.

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Unread 09-12-2019, 08:44 AM
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#26: Pushes & perception

One of the reasons I pulled the code apart and rebuilt it was to allow a rethink of some areas, particularly as some features had been in from the very earliest days of the game (and even back to EWR) simply because "that's how they've always been". Today we'll be looking at one of those fundamental changes.

In the past, pushes have always been done by picking your desired choice from a list, telling the game how you want the worker to be perceived. This was a system that worked fine, but it was very much a game-y feature rather than being realistic.

For TEW2020, we're ripping that system up and going with something far more natural.

So, first off, picking pushes from a list is totally gone, as are any related systems (such as auto pushing, complaints about being at the wrong push level, etc). Instead, you will now see a Perception level for each worker.

The Perception level, which ranges from Major Star down to Unknown, is how the fans see the worker. It is based on the worker's popularity and current momentum in comparison to the company's popularity. Unlike the old push system, this is not something you can directly edit, but is instead sensitive to how you actually use someone - so if you want to take an Unknown guy and make him into a Major Star you can't just pick it from a list, you need to book him strongly and get him over with the fans.

Because momentum plays a key part in how a worker is perceived this makes Perception far more volatile than pushes, so a worker can get hot and jump up a level or two and then go back down as he cools. This makes the roster more dynamic.

Of course, one major advantage of this new system is that it opens up the opportunity for fans to simply not take to a worker (or conversely to latch on to someone you weren't counting on) much more than in previous games - although you can of course try and book your way around any unexpected result.

Looking at the Perception gives the user a clear view of what effect that worker is having. A Major Star is somebody who you know is going to "move the needle" when it comes to attendances and ratings, whereas your Unknowns, however talented they may be, simply haven't connected with the fan base yet. This makes it more intuitive for users to get a feel for their roster.

Perception applies to everyone on the roster, which has the added advantage that it allows any divisions to be automatically taken into account - for example, unlike previous games where a women's division was a single push, in TEW2020 you could have a whole range of different Perceptions within the women.

Unlike the push system, Perceptions are absolute. That is, how the worker is perceived is not calculated in relation to the rest of the roster. This means that unlike previous games you don't have to have a certain roster "shape" - you could have an entire roster of Major Stars, or only Major Stars and Unknowns and nobody in between. This makes things considerably easier for database makers to put workers in their "correct" place on the roster without needing to fudge values.

It should be noted that although workers do take into account Perceptions when making decisions, they also still know their popularity too. So if you have one worker who is 10 popularity across the US and one who is 40 popularity, both working for a company that is 80 popularity, both would probably be Unknown to the fans but the second worker would still "know" that he's significantly higher up the food chain. So although Perceptions flattens out the roster in terms of the number of tiers, it doesn't make the game less detailed or nuanced.

So, overall, this makes the game more realistic both in terms of how booking impacts workers and how momentum affects the fans' view, removes a lot of annoyances regarding the necessity of auto-pushing and dealing with push-based complaints, takes away a lot of clicking and general admin work from the user due to the feature's automatic nature, makes database creation significantly easier, and allows women's division (and non-wrestlers) to be better integrated into the roster.
Going back to one of the older entries here, because I had some thoughts. This entry really only applies to the in-ring pushes; the current Main Event/Upper Midcard/etc. How are the out-of-ring pushes being done?

I am asking, because I was thinking how nice it would be to have some of my better road agents (who are currently pushed otherwise; in ring or manager) to be automatically selected. I was thinking that instead of pushes for these, there would just be checkboxes for "add to road agent pool" and probably "add to referee pool", that would allow them to be selected automatically when making matches while still having their other push.

I'd make this a suggestion, but since I don't know how the out of ring pushes are working right now, I don't know if it would be relatively simple or completely ridiculous.
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Unread 09-12-2019, 10:36 AM
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Will there be a freebird rule this incoming version?
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Unread 09-12-2019, 12:07 PM
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LOVE that idea of someone defending a title 10 times to earn a cool little note in the annals of history. That's a really neat touch.
Same, such a cool little feature. At the moment the game considers a 5x champion as more impressive than someone who has held the title for 5 years, so this is great.

I initially thought 10 defenses may be too few, but looking through the Triple Crown and IWGP defenses, only 4 reigns have had 10 or more, so 10 seems a fair number.
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Unread 09-12-2019, 12:57 PM
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LOVE that idea of someone defending a title 10 times to earn a cool little note in the annals of history. That's a really neat touch.
I feel like this should be either 10 defences or a certain amount of time. Maybe 2 years or something like that because I have had reigns that lasted multiple years in companies like MAW where they had a defense every couple of months
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Unread 09-12-2019, 01:21 PM
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In a similar vein, a new calendar has been introduced that gives a "desktop diary" style view where you can see three months at once where all the events and TV shows you have are shown. This gives the user an instant overview and is much handier when planning ahead during booking, advance booking, etc, scheduling, etc. To avoid confusion, the old calendar is now simply called Availability, the new "desktop diary" one is called Calendar.
Color me intrigued. This is not quite the answer I would have dreamed of to solve the advance booking problem. But if I'm understanding it correctly it is still an upgrade on what we've had the last couple games. Am I correct in thinking that you do the mass bookings as you do know and then everything will be separated by show in this calendar? Or are we just talking event and show titles? If it's the former, this could be good. If it's the latter, then I feel horribly, horribly teased.
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Unread 09-12-2019, 03:26 PM
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I agree, if we can pre book months in advance in game this is going to be my favourite new feature.
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Unread 09-12-2019, 06:36 PM
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Color me intrigued. This is not quite the answer I would have dreamed of to solve the advance booking problem. But if I'm understanding it correctly it is still an upgrade on what we've had the last couple games. Am I correct in thinking that you do the mass bookings as you do know and then everything will be separated by show in this calendar? Or are we just talking event and show titles? If it's the former, this could be good. If it's the latter, then I feel horribly, horribly teased.
Cappyboy, I'm right there with you. This is the second time I've seen you bring this up in recent weeks, and I myself have suggested this a couple times, as well. Three months is a wonderful improvement. Now we just hope for the PM Phase-style booking screen!
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Same, such a cool little feature. At the moment the game considers a 5x champion as more impressive than someone who has held the title for 5 years, so this is great.

I initially thought 10 defenses may be too few, but looking through the Triple Crown and IWGP defenses, only 4 reigns have had 10 or more, so 10 seems a fair number.
I thought the same thing for a second. But in my NJPW saves. Heavyweight champions usually defend the title 4 or 5 times at most in a years time. Usually WK, Defense against the New Japan cup winner, maybe a rando after the BOSJ tournament & finally on anyone he lost to during the G1. So 10 should theoretically be like a 2 year reign as well. WWE mite be a different story though.
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Unread 09-13-2019, 09:29 AM
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10 defenses is a very fair number for the Epic Reigns. I did some research (and excluded house show title defenses since those don't happen in TEW).
For the WWE Championship, 20 out of 136 reigns would qualify.
WWE World Heavyweight title, it was 2 out of 55.
WCW World title, it is 3 out of 64.
NWA World title (counting the TNA and WCW years), it is 45 out of 96, which is almost half.
ECW World title, it is 11 out of 33.
ROH World title has 14 out of 30 qualifying, so another where it's almost half.
IWGP Heavyweight title is 3 out of 69.
GHC Heavyweight title is 2 out of 32.
AJPW Triple Crown is only 1 out of 62.
AAA Mega title is 1 out of 17.

So for most companies, it really is a rare feat to have an "Epic Reign" and then there are a few outliers where it is a bit more common.

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Unread 09-13-2019, 09:52 AM
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I can't wait for the reveal of the work pic sizes. The earlier the better so I can start getting a megapack together.
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Unread 09-13-2019, 10:51 AM
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I can't wait for the reveal of the work pic sizes. The earlier the better so I can start getting a megapack together.
There's not going to be a reveal - it's already been confirmed that the picture sizes are the same.
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Unread 09-13-2019, 11:12 AM
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There's not going to be a reveal - it's already been confirmed that the picture sizes are the same.
Oh right, sorry. Thought it had been confirmed that larger pictures were being used like in wmma. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Unread 09-13-2019, 12:18 PM
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10 defenses is a very fair number for the Epic Reigns. I did some research (and excluded house show title defenses since those don't happen in TEW).
For the WWE Championship, 20 out of 136 reigns would qualify.
WWE World Heavyweight title, it was 2 out of 55.
WCW World title, it is 3 out of 64.
NWA World title (counting the TNA and WCW years), it is 45 out of 96, which is almost half.
ECW World title, it is 11 out of 33.
ROH World title has 14 out of 30 qualifying, so another where it's almost half.
IWGP Heavyweight title is 3 out of 69.
GHC Heavyweight title is 2 out of 32.
AJPW Triple Crown is only 1 out of 62.
AAA Mega title is 1 out of 17.

So for most companies, it really is a rare feat to have an "Epic Reign" and then there are a few outliers where it is a bit more common.
I love that you took the time to post this!

NWA isn't as much of a surprise, as it is just a showcase for how often they defend the title & have somewhat lengthy reigns. Japan is a weird case because title defenses are not an every month thing. I've seen periods of time where they didn't defend the title for like 6 months. "If I recall correctly."

I know this isn't the thread to have this convo so Imma shut up now.
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