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Unread 07-21-2019, 11:25 PM
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Well were getting Lady Thor. BHK is gonna have a hissy fit
Seems interesting. And apparently Hawkeye is going to get a show? training a new hero. I LOOOOVE Hawkeye.
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Unread 07-21-2019, 11:47 PM
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Well were getting Lady Thor. BHK is gonna have a hissy fit


Nope not a hissy fit, but it does come across as woke. Thor is the name of a god, it is not a mantel that can passed on by whomever wields the hammer. They could easily create a character who becomes a goddess with a different name and I would be cool and the gang with that.

However, people in entertainment will never do that because the name is what has been built up. Tough one could argue that Natalie Portman is such a star that it does not matter what she is in because people will support her movies no matter what.

The next phase of the MCU seems to be focusing on some of the "SJW" Marvel characters. Now I wonder if people will pay to see these movies because they are Marvel movies or will people not see them because there is a clear agenda that they are pushing.

I know when they moved towards that direction in the comics industry they ultimately failed as most of those books ended up being cancelled due to low sales. I am not sure that will be the when it comes to the movies. We shall see.

As a side note, I find it funny that Natalie Portman complained about the lack of women directors in the industry. Yet Natalie owns a production company that has produced (or has movies in pre-production/production phase) nine movies. Out of those nine movies seven of them were directed by men and the other two were directed by Natalie herself.

If she is so concerned with women as directors, why is she not hiring women to direct? I mean it is her company, one would assume she has say over who gets hired.

That is why I never get why people hold actors and actresses in such high regard. They will preach at you to do one thing, then they do the opposite. Plus having dealt with actors in the past I can tell you first hand a lot of them are just weird people.

They would be one of the last group of people who I would listen to when making any kind of decision.
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Unread 07-22-2019, 01:28 AM
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Getting a top 20 movie list seems impossible for me....there's a few I keep returning to and that I think are top of the list. One of them is always The Usual Suspects....the cast is just phenomenal and the plot has been copied by a lot of movies. I'm also a fan of some of the early M. Night Shyamalan movies....thought they had more new stuff in them than a given Tarantino-movie.
Stone made some top quality movies as well (his Vietnam-trilogy was great, JFK, Nixon, Any Given Sunday....). Add Ridley Scott and James Cameron to that...

Star Wars 1-3 (the second trilogy) all qualify as overrated to me. Gave them one look, and that was it.
I forgot to comment on this prior. After I made my list found myself saying, "I should remove Hysterical (a movie that I am willing to bet very few people on this site ever had a chance to see) for Alien."

Then Blazing Saddles comes to mind and I remember how great that was (The end was a huge letdown but the rest was funny). How about Psycho, North by Northwest, or Rear Window. The list truly does go on and on and it is tough to decide what makes the cut.

Hell what makes the cut one day might not make the cut the next day.

Out of the second trilogy I would say the only one I thought was really good was Revenge of the Sith.

I find M. Night Shyamalan's movies to be hit or miss to me. I think/hope that he has gotten his groove back because the last two movies in the Unbreakable trilogy were fantastic. I think part of his problem is he always has to get that twist in there. Not every movie needs it, but I am of the belief that he thinks it does.

JFK was a fantastic movie. I am not sure how much of it is fiction and how much of it was fact. But it does not really matter because it was highly entertaining.

Born on the Fourth of July was great as well and this is coming from someone who is not a fan of Tom Cruise and tends to stay away from anything he is in.

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Well were getting Lady Thor. BHK is gonna have a hissy fit
Just wanted to add a little more to what I wrote above.

I wanted to say that before anyone accuses me of hating any female driven movies or television shows. I want to say that is not the case.

I loved the first two Terminator movies, I loved all the Alien movies with Sigourney Weaver in them (The other ones...not so much.).

Orphan Black was one of my favorite shows, I watch the 100 every week, one of my favorite shows as a kid was the Golden Girls. I watch Supergirl which is by far one of the most PC shows on television (Yes the show is incredibly terrible and dumb at times but Melissa Benoist is uber-hot and so I force myself to sit through the show).

Honestly I do not even get mad when they do woke casting or gender swap of characters. I role my eyes and think it is dumb but that is it. At the end of the day it does not harm to me.

I will admit that I will post my takes on here sometimes just to get a reaction be it positive or negative. I am honestly not trolling, I truly enjoy reading other people's opinion on stuff and how their opinion might be different than mine.

When it comes to arguing a point, well after a few posts anyone will beat me. Because I often find that arguing on the internet is pointless.

I think the Fifth Doctor Who (Peter Davison) said it best in regards to the casting of Jodie Whittaker in the role. He said that the casting of Jodie meant that young boys would lose a role model and I think to an extent that is true.

Nobody has ever explained to me why there is a need to change already established characters into something else.

What is the point?

Why not make a show that featured a female Time Lord. Why did a character, that has been a male for fifty plus years, need to all of a sudden be played by an actress?

Now with everything I have said above, I will point out that I was very wrong about Katee Sackhoff playing Starbuck on the new BSG. When I first heard the news that Starbuck was going to be played by a woman I had my typical reaction.

Then I watched her and she was just awesome in that role and she quickly became one of my favorite characters on that show. In that instance I was wrong and I will admit it. But nowadays it seems like these sort of casting choices are becoming more and more common and it is painfully clear that there is an agenda being served.
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Unread 07-22-2019, 05:21 AM
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I was stunned at the sheer amount of Marvel movies that are in the pipeline and in existance. DC should follow suit, as I generally don't care about Marvel. And what's with the lack of superhero games? There's been Spidey and now the average-looking Avengers game. What about a new Batman game, as the previous ones were quite awesome.

The new supergirl costume falls in line with the rest of the show. Not an ounce of skin isn't covered now. XD I don't care, as I don't watch the show (and for the record: it still looks cool and true to the original superman costume).

The whole movement of "female-izing" male superheros is just so hilarious on the surface. Instead of making Batwoman her unique identity or expand the Sif character from the Thor movies, we're getting a "female Thor". If your goal is empowerment, this kind of decision doesn't help at all. I'm no "SJW" but I do strive for social justice (as crazy as it sounds), and this slightly ticks me off. Those kind of people also piss on true female icons like Lara Croft, which actually do function as a role model for girls (not saying her behavior is perfect, but it trumps the disgusting, toxic attitude of the Batwoman from the trailer). I don't really get it, and quite frankly, I'm beginning to think they suffer from a bit of retardation here and there.

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Unread 07-22-2019, 06:22 PM
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expand the Sif character from the Thor movies, we're getting a "female Thor".
Except that Jane Foster did become Thor in Jason Aaron's The Mighty Thor series which is what they are using for the inspiration of Thor: Love & Thunder.

https://www.marvel.com/comics/series...or_2015_-_2018

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Unread 07-23-2019, 02:35 AM
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I'm just glad they are bringing Natalie Portman back.

Far as everything else, I've been pretty cool with Marvel's decisions so far, and I'm not going to judge anything until I see how they actually handle everything.

I'm not keen on the whole 'Thor' is a woman thing either, but I do remember they had it in the comics... so I will wait and see. I don't know enough about the Eternals to be upset about their leader changing genders. That is what I mean about so far I haven't minded any of the changes, as they have gotten the look of the main characters that I'm familiar with so close to the comics, I just can't complain.

What I don't like in any of the comics tv shows or movies.... Is when they take a character I'm familiar with and change them completely, as in gender, sexual orientation, etc. They already have plenty of characters that meet all those things, and there is nothing wrong with fleshing them out and making them awesome in my opinion. IF they can make me love the Guardians of the Galaxy, they can surely do it for whomever they want rather than changing the ones with a legacy into a "token".
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Unread 07-23-2019, 02:49 AM
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SJW/representation movies did financially great in the last cycle, with Captain Marvel and Black Panther, so it's unsurprising to see them do more in that direction. They worked in the way that mattered.

"Female Thor" is such as odd pitch to me, as it seems to implies that Chris Hemsworth is being replaced as long-term Thor (which I'm 90% sure he isn't) or that the character needs updating and correcting for modern times, when... does he? He's not Star-Lord. He's not James Bond. I know they did it in the comics, but I'm reading the Civil War comics right now, and they're not good. Being faithful to the source material isn't great when it comes to these things.

However, I liked Ragnorok and What We Do In The Shadows enough that I trust Taika Waititi will do something cool with the concept. Something that gives us a lot of Hemsworth.
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Unread 07-23-2019, 11:30 PM
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I am not sure if either Black Panther or Captain Marvel were SJW movies. I think the SJW's latched onto them and made them seem like SJW movies in order to claim a "win" if they were successful.

Which is pathetic if you ask me. I mean how does a movie doing well at the box office benefit one's life if they did not help to make said movie (I guess the same could be said about sports as well).

Now I will say that I did not watch Captain Marvel so I cannot offer any input on the actual movie. I did not like the how they promoted the film and frankly Brie Larson came across as a bit of a jerk (Using my tame language here as only certain members on this board are allowed to swear. While I will get a warning.) in her various press junkets.

As I have said in the past, I wonder just how well Captain Marvel would have done if it did not come out about a month or so before End Game. I have read that her role was going to be drastically bigger in End Game but the producers were worried about how well she was going to be received.

In regards to Black Panther, the was a lot of stupid stuff going around about that movie as well. Like people praising it for being the first superhero movie to have a black leading man. Which sorry Wesley Snipes those three Blade movies you starred in are not even real.
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Unread 07-24-2019, 04:54 PM
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Im stoked for Blade and Shang-Chi.
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Unread 07-24-2019, 11:52 PM
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Im stoked for Blade and Shang-Chi.
Yeah Blade looks fantastic and Mahershala Ali is a fantastic actor. I have been a fan of his going back to his time on the 4400. I will admit that it kind of sucks that Wesley is not going to play the part again (He totally could, the dude does not age and he's still jacked the last time I saw a recent picture of him).

But Mahershala is a great choice to replace him so nobody will hear me complain about that topic. I also think Henry Simmons, who plays Mac in Agents of Shield, would have been a good choice for Blade as well.
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I am not sure if either Black Panther or Captain Marvel were SJW movies. I think the SJW's latched onto them and made them seem like SJW movies in order to claim a "win" if they were successful.

Which is pathetic if you ask me. I mean how does a movie doing well at the box office benefit one's life if they did not help to make said movie (I guess the same could be said about sports as well).

Now I will say that I did not watch Captain Marvel so I cannot offer any input on the actual movie. I did not like the how they promoted the film and frankly Brie Larson came across as a bit of a jerk (Using my tame language here as only certain members on this board are allowed to swear. While I will get a warning.) in her various press junkets.

As I have said in the past, I wonder just how well Captain Marvel would have done if it did not come out about a month or so before End Game. I have read that her role was going to be drastically bigger in End Game but the producers were worried about how well she was going to be received.

In regards to Black Panther, the was a lot of stupid stuff going around about that movie as well. Like people praising it for being the first superhero movie to have a black leading man. Which sorry Wesley Snipes those three Blade movies you starred in are not even real.
I had to rewrite this reply two times because I ended up going on a tirade and talking in circles about SJW, social media, the "us vs them" mentality in the media, etc. I just think the whole SJW bandwagon with the Marvel movies is like a football fan saying to someone "We did it! WE won the Super Bowl!" It's being proud for the sake of being proud and I find it extremely annoying.

Anyways, I still love the Marvel franchise though and I don't see anything wrong with Brie Larson. Did she say some stupid things? Yeah, she did... but she still is a good actress. I don't have anything against her as Captain Marvel and loved the 90s nostalgia in the movie too.

Did Hollywood use their agenda to make Black Panther such a big deal? Yeah, of course they were going to do that. It still doesn't mean it's a bad movie. In fact, I think they put a lot of effort and thought into it especially with moving the Marvel franchise along.

And yeah, the Blade trilogy did happen but then Snipes went to prison for tax dodging lol
It's still a good point though!
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I had to rewrite this reply two times because I ended up going on a tirade and talking in circles about SJW, social media, the "us vs them" mentality in the media, etc. I just think the whole SJW bandwagon with the Marvel movies is like a football fan saying to someone "We did it! WE won the Super Bowl!" It's being proud for the sake of being proud and I find it extremely annoying.

Anyways, I still love the Marvel franchise though and I don't see anything wrong with Brie Larson. Did she say some stupid things? Yeah, she did... but she still is a good actress. I don't have anything against her as Captain Marvel and loved the 90s nostalgia in the movie too.

Did Hollywood use their agenda to make Black Panther such a big deal? Yeah, of course they were going to do that. It still doesn't mean it's a bad movie. In fact, I think they put a lot of effort and thought into it especially with moving the Marvel franchise along.

And yeah, the Blade trilogy did happen but then Snipes went to prison for tax dodging lol
It's still a good point though!
I liked Black Panther, I rank it in the upper tier of Marvel movies. I really do not think Hollywood put any kind of agenda in it either. The people on Twitter tried to make it seem more important than it was and people bitching about it not being up for an Oscar made the buzz around it annoying.

Not that I hold the Oscar's in high esteem (or any award show for that matter) but Black Panther was not worthy of a Best Picture Nomination. All you heard about was how it was a miscarriage of justice that it was not nominated.

Brie's acting is debatable. I mean she has absolutely no charisma whatsoever. I think if you were to put Emilia Clarke, someone who has off the charts charisma and charm (Don't believe me? Just check her out in any interview she does. She is very charming.) there may not have been any backlash towards the movie.

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To interrupt the Marvel discussions. (Sorry Black Widow was awesome and I wish she had gotten her own movie) I saw Lion King. I'm old enough to remember when it first came out. I liked this remake...more than I thought I would...I'm quite disappointed they took 2 of my favorite scenes out of it.
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I liked Black Panther, I rank it in the upper tier of Marvel movies. I really do not think Hollywood put any kind of agenda in it either. The people on Twitter tried to make it seem more important than it was and people bitching about it not being up for an Oscar made the buzz around it annoying.

Not that I hold the Oscar's in high esteem (or any award show for that matter) but Black Panther was not worthy of a Best Picture Nomination. All you heard about was how it was a miscarriage of justice that it was not nominated.

Brie's acting is debatable. I mean she has absolutely no charisma whatsoever. I think if you were to put Emilia Clarke, someone who has off the charts charisma and charm (Don't believe me? Just check her out in any interview she does. She is very charming.) there may not have been any backlash towards the movie.
I don't hold the Academy in high esteem either but I do cheer for actors I like to get the awards they deserve.

I agree that Clarke has more charisma and charm than Larson. In fact, Clarke has been great in almost any role she takes (not counting GoT) and I hear she does her best role to date in Above Suspicion (about the first conviction of an FBI agent and tragic story. I read the book and it's a very captivating story!). Unfortunately, that movie is having distribution problems since it wrapped up back in 2018.

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To interrupt the Marvel discussions. (Sorry Black Widow was awesome and I wish she had gotten her own movie) I saw Lion King. I'm old enough to remember when it first came out. I liked this remake...more than I thought I would...I'm quite disappointed they took 2 of my favorite scenes out of it.
Even though I loved the original, I would like to see this remake and see if I'll still enjoy it. I've heard mixed reviews and the same comment about scenes being taken out. The voice talent for the movie looks amazing on paper and I've been a huge fan of Billy Eichner ever since his days doing Billy on The Street (I recommend anyone who loves pop culture to check that show out!)
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Even though I loved the original, I would like to see this remake and see if I'll still enjoy it. I've heard mixed reviews and the same comment about scenes being taken out. The voice talent for the movie looks amazing on paper and I've been a huge fan of Billy Eichner ever since his days doing Billy on The Street (I recommend anyone who loves pop culture to check that show out!)
Billy on the Street was an excellent show. But now, thanks to you, I have the show's theme song stuck in my head.

I am not a fan of them remaking all of the various Disney movies. That being said I have no real connection to the ones that they are or will be remaking. Mainly because the vast majority of them came out when I was older. They are not "my generation's" Disney movies, they are the generation after me.

So movies like Mulan and the Lion King are not really special to me as some of the older Disney movies. To me the whole thing just screams as a cash grab from a company that can no longer come up with original material (But saying this, most of their classic stuff was not original either.).

I would love to see them do a movie with Mickey and company. When was the last one of those to come out? The last Micky related movie that I can think of off the top of my head was Who Framed Roger Rabbit and that was only a cameo.
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