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2002 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:
Sting vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Konnan vs. Mortis
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Chris Candido
Norman Smiley vs. The Unnatural

Second Round:
Sting vs. Mortis
Rey vs. Unnatural

Group Winner: Rey


GROUP B:

Opening Round:
Billy Kidman vs. Lance Storm
American Dragon vs. Kenny Omega
AJ Styles vs. Jamie Knoble
Hayabusa vs. The Destroyer

Second Round:
Storm vs. Dragon
Styles vs. Hayabusa

Group Winner: Styles


GROUP C:

Opening Round:
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Shane Helms
King Corino vs. TAKA
Mark Jindrak vs. Chuck Palumbo
Sean O'Haire vs. Disco Inferno

Second Round:
DDP vs. Corino
Palumbo vs. O'Haire

Group Winner: Corino


GROUP D:

Opening Round:
Rick Steiner vs. CM Punk
Ernest Miller vs. Davey Boy Smith
Rob Van Dam vs. Hugh Morrus
Teddy Hart vs. Yuji Nagata

Second Round:
Punk vs. Smith
RVD vs. Nagata

Group Winner: RVD

SEMIFINALS:
Misterio vs. Styles
Corino vs RVD

2002 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Rey Misterio Jr
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2002 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:
Sting
Mortis
Rey Mysterio Jr.
The Unnatural

Second Round:
Sting
Rey

Group Winner: Rey


GROUP B:

Opening Round:
Lance Storm
American Dragon
AJ Styles
Hayabusa

Second Round:
Storm
Styles

Group Winner: Storm


GROUP C:

Opening Round:
Diamond Dallas Page
King Corino
Chuck Palumbo
Sean O'Haire

Second Round:
Corino
O'Haire

Group Winner: Corino


GROUP D:

Opening Round:
CM Punk
Davey Boy Smith
Rob Van Dam
Yuji Nagata

Second Round:
Punk
RVD

Group Winner: RVD

SEMIFINALS:
Misterio
RVD

2002 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): RVD
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2002 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:
Sting vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Konnan vs. Mortis
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Chris Candido
Norman Smiley vs. The Unnatural

Second Round:
Sting vs. Mortis
Rey vs. Unnatural

Group Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr


GROUP B:

Opening Round:
Billy Kidman vs. Lance Storm
American Dragon vs. Kenny Omega
AJ Styles vs. Jamie Knoble
Hayabusa vs. The Destroyer

Second Round:
Storm vs. Dragon
Styles vs. Destroyer

Group Winner: Lance Storm


GROUP C:

Opening Round:
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Shane Helms
King Corino vs. TAKA
Mark Jindrak vs. Chuck Palumbo
Sean O'Haire vs. Disco Inferno

Second Round:
DDP vs. Corino
Palumbo vs. O'Haire

Group Winner: King Corino


GROUP D:

Opening Round:
Rick Steiner vs. CM Punk
Ernest Miller vs. Davey Boy Smith
Rob Van Dam vs. Hugh Morrus
Teddy Hart vs. Yuji Nagata

Second Round:
Punk vs. Smith
RVD vs. Nagata

Group Winner: RVD

SEMIFINALS:
Rey vs. Lance Storm
King Corino vs. RVD

2002 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points) Rey Mysterio Jr
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you should get rid of the pink ladies symbol and just add it to the bottom of the C combine them but make it clear they are two different objects
I'm going to re-work it sometime this week. Either I'll use the Atlanta City Skyline or the Blue Marble in the background.
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you should get rid of the pink ladies symbol and just add it to the bottom of the C combine them but make it clear they are two different objects

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Gave this another shot, hope this works for you... I think each "version" of the logo has strong and weak points, they're free to use for anyone!



I put this picture from wikipedia of the atlanta skyline in the background. I'm not completely happy with it, a little rough around the edges, but overall I like the feel it has.
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2002 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:
Sting vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Konnan vs. Mortis
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Chris Candido
Norman Smiley vs. The Unnatural

Second Round:
Sting/Chavo vs. Konnan/Mortis
Rey/Candido vs. Smiley/Unnatural

Group Winner: Rey


GROUP B:

Opening Round:
Billy Kidman vs. Lance Storm
American Dragon vs. Kenny Omega
AJ Styles vs. Jamie Knoble
Hayabusa vs. The Destroyer

Second Round:
Kidman/Storm vs. Dragon/Omega
Styles/Knoble vs. Hayabusa/Destroyer

Group Winner: Lance Storm


GROUP C:

Opening Round:
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Shane Helms
King Corino vs. TAKA
Mark Jindrak vs. Chuck Palumbo
Sean O'Haire vs. Disco Inferno

Second Round:
DDP/Helms vs. Corino/TAKA
Jindrak/Palumbo vs. O'Haire/Inferno

Group Winner: King Corino


GROUP D:

Opening Round:
Rick Steiner vs. CM Punk
Ernest Miller vs. Davey Boy Smith
Rob Van Dam vs. Hugh Morrus
Teddy Hart vs. Yuji Nagata

Second Round:
Steiner/Punk vs. Miller/Smith
RVD/Morrus vs. Hart/Nagata

Group Winner: RVD

SEMIFINALS:
(Group A Winner) Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. (Group B Winner) Lance Storm
(Group C Winner) King Corino vs. (Group D Winner) RVD

2002 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Rey Mysterio Jr.

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GROUP A:

Opening Round:
Sting vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Konnan vs. Mortis
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Chris Candido
Norman Smiley vs. The Unnatural

Second Round:
Sting vs. Mortis
Rey vs. Unnatural

Group Winner: Rey


GROUP B:

Opening Round:
Billy Kidman vs. Lance Storm
American Dragon vs. Kenny Omega
AJ Styles vs. Jamie Knoble
Hayabusa vs. The Destroyer

Second Round:
Storm vs. Dragon
Styles vs. Destroyer

Group Winner: Destroyer


GROUP C:

Opening Round:
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Shane Helms
King Corino vs. TAKA
Mark Jindrak vs. Chuck Palumbo
Sean O'Haire vs. Disco Inferno

Second Round:
DDPvs. Corino
Palumbo vs. O'Haire

Group Winner: The King


GROUP D:

Opening Round:
Rick Steiner vs. CM Punk
Ernest Miller vs. Davey Boy Smith
Rob Van Dam vs. Hugh Morrus
Teddy Hart vs. Yuji Nagata

Second Round:
Punk vs. Smith
RVD vs. Nagata

Group Winner: RVD

SEMIFINALS:
Rey vs. Destroyer
Corino vs. RVD

2002 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Rey
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Default September 2002: Welcoming the Women's Wrestling Renaissance

The times, they are a-changin'. Saturday Night is no more, but we have a new show all set to take its place:



The new show will be one hour long, taping and airing on Saturday beginning on October 5th. We'll be recording exclusively in Japan to begin with, to capitalize on our strong crop of talented joshi workers, but the show will be airing worldwide.

I would've loved to get it on the USA Network, current home of Nitro, but USA wasn't interested. This was actually a pretty enlightening conversation as to our current status on the network. USA has expanded their market penetration pretty significantly this year. That gets us into more homes, which is of course a good thing. Nitro is actually available in more homes than Raw reaches in the US via TNN, which is wonderful news for us. The flip side of this network expansion is that USA has higher expectations for us, and we're not meeting them at our current size. They haven't expressed any unhappiness with our ratings, but they made it clear during this meeting that if we didn't expand in size by the time our existing deal expires, they wouldn't be renewing Nitro. We still have seven months left and I'm confident we'll be able to meet their requirements by then, but it does give us a concrete deadline to shoot for. Still, for the moment it took USA out of the equation for the launch of Renaissance. For lack of a better option, we partnered with FX. They're nowhere near as big as USA, but we didn't really have any better alternatives. We made sure this was a very short term deal, because hopefully in a few months we'll have proven ourselves to USA and they'll be willing to add our new show to their programming.

We have basically the exact opposite scenario in Canada. We were able to negotiate a nine month deal with Much Music, which is a larger network than The Score (current Canadian home of Nitro.) We attempted to move Nitro over to the bigger network during a recent negotiation period but were rejected because Much Music didn't want a two hour block of wrestling, forcing us to remain on The Score. The length wasn't a hurdle with the 60 minute format of Renaissance, so the deal got done.

In Mexico we'll be on 52MX, which is a lateral move in comparison to Canal 5, the Mexican partner for Nitro. Our other deals are more cut and dry, as they're with the same broadcasters that air Nitro: Channel 5 in the British Isles, TV Asahi in Japan, Sky Euro in Europe and Ten Network Australia in, you guessed it, Australia. Having to settle for FX rather than USA was a disappointment, but internationally this couldn't have worked out better. Now we need to deliver quality shows and prove that this experiment is a good idea, and women wrestling deserves to be taken seriously and can draw money all on its own.

We'll post detailed features on WCW.com to introduce the roster to our audience, but I've compiled a breakdown for our own internal use.



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(The Faces)




Alexis Laree
Alexis is a somewhat familiar face to our fans. She's played a plucky young babyface type, and she challenged Etsuko Mita for the Women's title at Clash of the Champions. She's still rehabbing a strained rotator cuff and won't be ready for the premiere of Renaissance, but she'll be healthy soon enough. She's a decent worker, and at 23 has plenty of time to blossom into a very good one, plus she's got a fair bit of charisma.


Allison Corino

She's been working as Allison Danger on the independents, but we'll be fully playing her up as the real-life sister of Steve Corino by giving her the same surname. She's had a few interactions with her brother on Nitro, and we'll likely keep that going for a bit even when Renaissance begins. That should give her a means to build a bit of popularity up, but it remains to be seen how high her ceiling is. Her in-ring skills are passable but nothing special, and the same could be said of her entertainment skills. She still has plenty of time to improve both at 25 years old, but I don't know if she'll ever be a candidate to headline for Renaissance.


Chigusa Nagayo

Nagayo was the owner of GAEA when I bought the company, but she's also one of the biggest stars in joshi history. As The Crush Gals, she and partner Lioness Asuka were legit mainstream stars in Japan in the '80s, and she went on to great success as a singles wrestler as well. She retired in 1989 per the mandatory retirement age of the All Japan Women's group, but came out of retirement when she formed GAEA in 1995 and was one of the promotion's top stars for its entire run. She's still going even at 37, and remains a fair technical wrestler in addition to solid promo ability. We'll be playing into her storied career and portraying her as a legend who still believes she has what it takes to compete and win at the highest level.


Kaori Nakayama

Not even going to bother with a picture, because she won't be around long enough to need one. 30-year old Nakayama was one of the workers I chose to pick up from the GAEA buyout, but she's already let me know she has no interest in re-signing when her contract runs out in about a month. Not sure where she thinks she's going to go, since the only women's group left in Japan is our own developmental territory that's set to launch, but more power to her I guess. She'll do a couple of jobs on her way out, and that'll be that.


Kyoko Inoue

Inoue's one of the most talented female wrestlers in the world today, and one of the strongest acquisitions from the GAEA deal. She held the WWWA title, now our own WCW Women's World Championship, three times between '96 and '99. She's famed for her Giant Swing and is also the creator of the Victoria Driver, which became better known as the Burning Hammer when adopted by Kenta Kobashi. She forms the team 'Double Inoue' with our own Takako Inoue (no relation), but she's coming in as a face while Takako is well-established as vain heel in WCW. Hmm...


Manami Toyota

Not much introduction necessary here. Toyota is arguably the most talented female wrestler in the world today, has been positioned as our top female face and will headline the debut show in her championship rematch against Etsuko Mita. We'll be depending on Manami to lead the way as we try to get this new brand off the ground.


Melissa Anderson

The kayfabe niece of Arn Anderson made her main roster debut in May. She's been working a lot in nothing matches on Saturday Night recently, as the title picture has revolved around Toyota and Mita and we simply didn't have time to do much else with the women. That shouldn't be a problem now that the women will have their own show. Melissa is one of our most promising prospects, and hopefully the 20-year old will continue to grow now that we'll be able to use her in more meaningful spots.


Nattie Neidhart

Daughter of the Anvil, my niece, and a graduate of The Dungeon. Obviously I have a soft spot for Nattie, but she wouldn't be here if I didn't think she were good enough. She's developed some solid technical skills already but there's still work to do elsewhere, especially in her verbal skills. I am hopeful she will be a success, but we can't afford to strap a rocket to her and build the brand around her before she's ready. If and when she reaches the top of the food chain on Renaissance, it'll be because she deserves it.


Toshiyo Yamada

Yamada's primary role in WCW has been as the support/tag team partner of Manami Toyota, but she has value to us in her own right. She's a talented in-ring worker who throws lots of kicks. Her lack of charisma and star quality will limit her, but she's a solid hand and should see plenty of ring time on the new show.
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(The Heels)



Aja Kong (AAAW Singles Champion)

Kong is the quintessential female monster character. She's got a great aura and is clearly the best brawler in the division. She debuted in AJW in the mid-80's and was a major force in the company for a decade, winning the top title (now our top women's title) three times, with her first reign lasting nearly two and a half years before Manami Toyota finally dethroned her. Aja was the reigning AAAW Singles champion (GAEA's top title) when we purchased the company, and she'll be bringing the belt along with her when she debuts. She will instantly slot in as a monster heel at the top of the card.


Daffney

Daffney was mainly a valet in her first stint with WCW, but we've brought her back as a wrestler. Her in-ring skills still aren't dazzling, but her time in Wildside did at least turn her into a decent worker. Her dark, goth-like character offers something different if nothing else, especially with the poison mist gimmick. She's been on the backburner recently, especially once her partner Akira Hokuto went to rehab, but should get plenty of TV time now.


Devil Masami

Probably Aja Kong's only serious competition for the top brawling spot on the brand. Masami was one of AJW's top stars during their big '80s boom period, and the primary opponent for Chigusa Nagayo at the top of the card when GAEA first opened. She came over in the GAEA purchase. At 40 years old her best days are behind her, but I think she should still be able to produce in important matches for the brand in its early days. We'll be presenting her as a bloodthirsty brawler who loves to beat her opponents to the point of unconsciousness.


Etsuko Mita (World Women's Champion)

The current top female heel, reigning World Champion and member of Eric Bischoff's Empire. She'll headline the first show in a title rematch against Manami Toyota. I'm perfectly satisfied with the job she's done, but with an influx of new talent from the GAEA purchase (particularly Kong), she has competition for the top heel spot.


LuFisto

LuFisto was signed to a developmental deal in January. She actually graduated to the main roster in June but has yet to appear on TV, working strictly in pre-show matches. That will obviously change now. She's okay but nothing special in the ring. She does play a crazy character pretty well, so we may try to play her up as a wild heel who should not be underestimated despite her small stature.


Mayumi Ozaki

Another GAEA pickup. She unfortunately shattered her knee last August with GAEA and has been out ever since, but according to the medical staff she should be cleared to return very soon. Her in-ring skills aren't anything to get excited over, but I didn't choose to take on her contract for her wrestling ability. She's here because she's a fantastic heel and one of the best promos on the brand. Maybe her matches won't be fantastic, but she should do a great job at "talking them into the building" and enhancing feuds.


Shinobu Kandori

Kandori's been around since our purchase of AJW earlier in the year, primarily working to help build up faces before they work a title program with Mita. That's seemed like a logical position for her at 37 years old. She's a solid all-around worker with a legit judo background, and she incorporates that judo into her ring work.


Sonoko Kato

Kato was one of the young women Chigusa Nagayo was hoping to build GAEA around, but she never really broke out as a top singles star for the group. She did have three tag title reigns with three different partners, and was a coholder of those belts when we bought the company. She works as an old school heel, and will probably be used primarily to put others over.


Takako Inoue

Another of the pickups from the AJW purchase earlier in the year. She's a good worker and has been pretty convincing in her role as a vain character who flaunts her looks. As noted earlier, there's natural history we can now play off with her and new acquisition Kyoko Inoue.


Toshie Uematsu

Another young GAEA talent that never quite broke through into the main event. I think I may know why: she worked a dark match for us in August clearly not in a good state, and we later found out she'd taken a bunch of painkillers. Hopefully that won't become a recurring issue, or she might not stick around very long. She works as a classic "win at all costs" heel, and given that she and Kato were the last AAAW tag champions in GAEA, they'd be a logical pairing to match together in WCW.
That's the in-ring lineup. The announcing will be handled by Tony Schiavone and Tracy Brooks, who have been working together on Saturday Night for months in preparation for this very moment. Charles Robinson will be the lead ref for the brand, and Dusty will be the road agent. We also have two Japanese non-wrestlers inherited from GAEA that will be on-screen performers. Ryu Nakata will be a ring announcer/interviewer, while we'll look to find good chemistry for someone that Panch Tahara can manage (hopefully one of our North American girls, to circumvent the language barrier.)
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Yay!

I have a question.....do you just have a "women's division" in game or do you put them as integrated so they actually have card ranking such as "main event" "upper mid"? One problem you may run into is that you can't run the girls too long of matches because the game will treat all your female workers like they are midcarders.

You could probably switch your settings to see how your girls get autopushed.
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Really like how you introduced this new show and how you went in depth with it. I'll be honest, I at first, wasn't really looking forward to this new show. The way you went in depth with the whole roster, changed that. Im excited to see what the future holds for these women in WCW. Really looking forward to it!
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2002 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:
Sting vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Konnan vs. Mortis
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Chris Candido
Norman Smiley vs. The Unnatural

Second Round:
Sting/Chavo vs. Konnan/Mortis
Rey/Candido vs. Smiley/Unnatural

Group Winner: Rey


GROUP B:

Opening Round:
Billy Kidman vs. Lance Storm
American Dragon vs. Kenny Omega
AJ Styles vs. Jamie Knoble
Hayabusa vs. The Destroyer

Second Round:
Kidman/Storm vs. Dragon/Omega
Styles/Knoble vs. Hayabusa/Destroyer

Group Winner: AJ Styles


GROUP C:

Opening Round:
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Shane Helms
King Corino vs. TAKA
Mark Jindrak vs. Chuck Palumbo
Sean O'Haire vs. Disco Inferno

Second Round:
DDP/Helms vs. Corino/TAKA
Jindrak/Palumbo vs. O'Haire/Inferno

Group Winner: Corino


GROUP D:

Opening Round:
Rick Steiner vs. CM Punk
Ernest Miller vs. Davey Boy Smith
Rob Van Dam vs. Hugh Morrus
Teddy Hart vs. Yuji Nagata

Second Round:
Steiner/Punk vs. Miller/Smith
RVD/Morrus vs. Hart/Nagata

Group Winner: RVD

SEMIFINALS:
(Group A Winner) vs. (Group B Winner): Rey vs. AJ Styles
(Group C Winner) vs. (Group D Winner): Corino vs. RVD

2002 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Rey Mysterio
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2002 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:
Sting vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Konnan vs. Mortis
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Chris Candido
Norman Smiley vs. The Unnatural

Second Round:
Sting vs. Mortis
Rey vs. Unnatural

Group Winner: Rey Mysterio Jr.


GROUP B:

Opening Round:
Billy Kidman vs. Lance Storm
American Dragon vs. Kenny Omega
AJ Styles vs. Jamie Knoble
Hayabusa vs. The Destroyer

Second Round:
Storm vs. Omega
Styles vs. Destroyer

Group Winner: AJ Styles


GROUP C:

Opening Round:
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Shane Helms
King Corino vs. TAKA
Mark Jindrak vs. Chuck Palumbo
Sean O'Haire vs. Disco Inferno

Second Round:
DDP vs. Corino
Palumbo vs. O'Haire

Group Winner: Corino


GROUP D:

Opening Round:
Rick Steiner vs. CM Punk
Ernest Miller vs. Davey Boy Smith
Rob Van Dam vs. Hugh Morrus
Teddy Hart vs. Yuji Nagata

Second Round:
Punk vs. Smith
RVD vs. Nagata

Group Winner: RVD

SEMIFINALS:
Rey vs. Styles
Corino vs. RVD

2002 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Rey Mysterio Jr.
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Still following. Still loving it. Elated that you decided to continue. One question: did you reveal what happened to Luger and I just missed it, or has that not been addressed?
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September 23rd, 2002

From the Cricket Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina

Attendance: 8,592

Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart

The show opens with Arn Anderson in the ring. He was trying to provide an introduction for the Stu Hart Classic, but the fans in Charlotte drown him out with boos until he's forced to leave the ring as we awkwardly cut to commercial. (Obviously we anticipated this reaction from the fans, and this angle played out exactly as we'd planned.) (B-)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group A: Konnan and Mortis got the tournament underway. Konnan got some offense in, but was unable to lock in his Tequila Sunrise submission and was eventually defeated by Mortis's Electric Chair Facebuster. (B-)

Forever Flair: In the first of a series of short clips airing throughout the night, Ric Flair beats Dusty Rhodes on September 17th, 1981 to win the world title for the first time. (C+)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group A: Next up was Norman Smiley against The Unnatural. Smiley was the fresher of the two, but Unnatural shrugged off his defeat at the hands of Scott Steiner 24 hours earlier and moved on in the tournament with Unnatural Selection. (B)

New Cruiserweight Champion Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams are hosting a live fan chat on WCW.com when American Dragon interrupts. Dragon tells Daniels that just because he's taking part in the Stu Hart Classic doesn't mean he's forgotten about Daniels and his "new buddy" screwing him over last night, and he will be coming to get his title back sooner or later. (C+)

In brief unseen footage after War Games went off the air, The Empire are celebrating their win in the back when "Allison" approaches King Corino and asks if he's proud of himself for what he just did. He takes offense to that, but Bischoff and the rest of the group lead him away. (B-)

Shane Douglas sat in on color commentary for the next match, and with good reason: Davey Boy Smith met Chuck Palumbo to determine who will challenge for Shane's US title at Halloween Havoc. This straightforward brawl was interrupted by Sean O'Haire, who tried to hit the ring and had to be restrained by a group of officials. Davey Boy took advantage of the distraction and finished Palumbo to punch his ticket for Halloween Havoc. (C+)

Booker T cuts a promo on next week's contract signing with Scott Steiner. "The champ will be in the house, and we'll make it official that I'll be taking back my spot in the main event at Halloween Havoc! ...Oh, and Scott Steiner will be there too, if any suckas care about that." (B+)

Forever Flair: Ric beats Harley Race in a cage match at the first-ever Starrcade to win his second world title. (C+)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group A: Though Sting was quite a bit older, his experience edge over young vet Chavo Guerrero Jr. was comparatively small. Chavo didn't make any critical mistakes, but Sting was still able to get into position for the Scorpion Deathdrop and move on into a second round match with Mortis. (B)

DDP promo; he's not exactly sure what Kimberly meant by her parting comment last night, but he's happy that she's happy and looks forward to moving on with his career. (B)

Forever Flair: A look at the formation, legacy and various lineups of the Four Horsemen. (C+)

Teddy Hart, grandson of Stu and son of Georgia, made his WCW main roster debut a successful one by defeating Blitzkrieg with some dazzling high flying. (C)

Post-match interview: Teddy says he's excited to carry the Hart legacy on into the third generation, and he'll honor his grandfather by winning the Stu Hart Classic. (C-)

Scott Steiner promo: "Next week we'll sign the contract--and Booker, you just better hope I'm in a good mood, or else I'll throw you right through that damn table and there won't be no main event for Halloween Havoc!" (A*)

Forever Flair: Highlights of Flair's fabled trilogy of world title matches against Ricky Steamboat in 1989. (C+)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group A: The final first round match in the group featured Rey Mysterio Jr. against Chris Candido. Rey showed no ill effects in his first match since Bash at the Beach, looking as quick as ever as he consistently stayed one step ahead of Candido and pinned him with a Springboard Hurricanrana (albeit after a tough and lengthy match in which Candido got in plenty of offense.) (B+)

Forever Flair: Looking back at the match between Flair and a young Sting at the first Clash of the Champions that launched Sting into superstardom, and the legendary rivalry that followed for the next decade-plus. (B-)

Spotlight Segment:



After all the buildup, the man of the hour came to the ring. He was crying pretty much from the moment he stepped through the curtain, and the enthusiastic and sustained ovation he got from the fans in Charlotte probably didn't help any. He composed himself enough to thank the fans for the reaction not just tonight, but for years. He called himself "blessed" to have had the career he had, and mentioned some of the highlights and some of the legendary opponents he'd had in his career, as well as the men who'd stood beside him in the various incarnations of the Four Horsemen (he excluded Ole and Roma though.) He was sad that it was over and apologized to the fans for letting them down last night, though he pointed out that he didn't quit. He said that The Empire would've had to kill him to make him give up. That was all he really said about the finish and the controversy surrounding Arn, because we wanted to keep that more nuanced than a simple "You betrayed me, and now I hate you!" story.








Out came a group of well-wishers. Sting let Ric know that he hadn't let anybody down. He went out fighting, he went out like the "Nature Boy", and he had nothing to be ashamed of. He called Ric "one of a kind" and said he wouldn't have become the wrestler or the man that he is if it weren't for Ric. His rivalry with Ric made his career, and even if they'd spent most of their careers as enemies, Ric's greatness had always motivated Sting to work that much harder to try and keep up. Friends, foes, he'd always respected what Ric could do inside the ring, and his contributions to professional wrestling were second to none. Sting was fantastic here.

No one else spoke on the mic. No, not even Dusty. How in the world did I book Ric Flair's retirement segment, send Dusty freaking Rhodes to the ring and NOT give him the microphone? Talk about a missed opportunity. Anyway, the group hugged Ric and encouraged the fans to cheer as he stood in the center of the ring, crying. I felt it appropriate to temporarily bring his son David up from developmental to be part of this, but he looked dreadfully out of place sharing the ring with these legends and his presence there damaged the segment somewhat.

A tearful Ric took the mic to address the fans once more. "Charlotte, I love you! Thank you! To my family, I love you, and thank you for putting up with me all these years! WCW, I love you! Even if I never put on a pair of wrestling boots again, I promise you haven't seen the last of the Nature Boy! Now give it to me one more time...

"WOOOOOOOOO!"

The fans and the Flair supporters in the ring "wooed" right along with him. That was the last shot of the live arena.










We cut away to a live look at Arn Anderson, who was watching the entire thing on a monitor inside his office. He shook his head, sighed to himself, turned the monitor off and steepled his hands on his chin as we faded to black.


Grade: B-


Show Grade: B+






Taped immediately after Nitro

Announce Team: Tony Schiavone and Tracy Brooks

Jamie Knoble submitted Blitzkrieg. (B)

Ernest Miller took down Alan Funk. (D+)

Bobby Heenan conducts another interview with Teddy Hart, who says he respects the rest of his family but will do things with his own style. (C-)

True Heroes defeated Mark Jindrak and Animal. (B)

A lengthy tribute video for Ric Flair is aired. (B-)


Show Grade: B-

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September 30th, 2002

From the Reed Green Coliseum in Hattiesburg, Mississippi

Attendance: 7,815

Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group B: Hayabusa and The Destroyer renewed an old and bloody rivalry from their Japanese days. No blood and guts this time, but The Destroyer was able to physically overwhelm his smaller opponent to advance in the tournament. (B)

In a brief segment, Booker T and Scott Steiner are shown arriving in the building earlier in the day for their contract signing later tonight. (B)

The Empire promo; they complain about King Corino and TAKA being matched against each other in the first round of the Stu Hart Classic next week, calling it a farce and an obvious ploy to try and divide the group. But Corino promises that he and TAKA will work well together in tonight's tag match against Shane Helms and DDP, and they'll have the last laugh next week too. (B+)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group B: Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams showed up to watch as American Dragon took on Stampede Wrestling's Kenny Omega. Dragon shrugged off the distraction and used his technical wrestling skills to outmaneuver young Omega and win the match via submission. (B-)

RVD promo; he says he's looking forward to winning the Stu Hart Classic for the second year in a row and reminding everyone that "R-V-D" is the best big match wrestler in the world. (B+)

Ernest Miller challenged Fit Finlay this week. Miller gave it his best and landed some good kicks, but the brawling of Finlay led him to his fourth successful defense. (C+)

Backstage; we get a glimpse of Sting in conversation with Arn Anderson. Arn seems to be explaining himself to Sting, who nods along. (B-)

Sean O'Haire promo; he'll destroy Disco Inferno next week, and he hopes that Chuck Palumbo will beat Mark Jindrak--because if he does, O'Haire will get to punch his former friend's face in at Halloween Havoc in the second round of the tournament! (B)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group B: In an intriguing matchup, it was the phenomenal athleticism of AJ Styles against the mat wrestling skills of Jamie Knoble. Knoble gave AJ a tough match with an effective ground game focused on the legs, but a flurry of offense capped off with a Styles Clash sent AJ into the second round. (B)

In an interview with Bobby Heenan, Shane Douglas calls Davey Boy Smith an "overrated musclehead" who doesn't have the smarts to compete with him at Halloween Havoc. (B-)

Rey Mysterio Jr. had no trouble defeating local talent Kaos. (B)

The Hardys and True Heroes get into an argument backstage as Storm was preparing for his SHC match against Kidman; the two teams have to be pulled apart. (B+)

In a twist, a tag match featured two teams who will have to turn around and face each other next week in the SHC. Unsurprisingly, fellow Empire members Corino and TAKA were more united than DDP and Shane Helms, and that unity allowed them to isolate Helms, who Corino finished with the piledriver. (B)

Salvation promo; after last week and Destroyer's win tonight, all three members have advanced to the second round of the Stu Hart Classic. "We will rule this tournament and bring Salvation to the masses!" Father Isaac promises. (A)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group B: The final opening round match in Block B pitted Kidman against Lance Storm. It was stylistically similar to the Styles/Knoble match from earlier, with a technician trying to ground and outwrestle a high flier. The difference was that this time the technician prevailed, as Storm weakened Kidman's leg to the point that his rolling half crab earned the submission. (B)

Arn Anderson and Rick Steiner are both on hand for the in-ring contract signing, but leave the talking to Booker and Scott. Booker complains about WCW trying to deny him his spot in the main event, but this month he's back where he belongs and he'll show everyone that he's the man, he's the main event player and Scott Steiner never should've won this title from him in the first place last year. Scott mocks Booker for his constant whining and says he complains more than all of his freaks combined. But if Booker wants a main event, he'll get a main event at Halloween Havoc. Scott's going to enjoy winning the world title for the third time, but even more than that, he's going to enjoy getting back to his third favorite pastime (behind maintaining his peaks and working his freaks), "whippin' Booker T's sorry ass!" Both men sign the contract without incident, but Booker cheap shots Rick in the face with the belt before running away. He smirks as he retreats up the aisle, while Scott crouches near his brother and curses Booker out (off-microphone, thankfully.) (A)


Show Grade: B+






October 5th, 2002

From Tokyo, Japan

Attendance: 8,500

Announce Team: Tony Schiavone and Tracy Brooks

The very first show begins with a lengthy vignette promoting this as the dawn of a new age in women's wrestling, and tonight's main event between Etsuko Mita and Manami Toyota is presented as the match to determine who will lead the charge. Both women give their own thoughts: Mita says everyone in Japan has been raving about Toyota for years, and she's sick of it. Tonight it will only take one Death Valley Driver for everyone to realize they should've been talking about her all along. Toyota's message is simpler and less personal--she wants to put on a match that will have people talking, and she wants to represent WCW and the Renaissance with honor as the Women's World Champion. (B)

The gorgeous and talented Cutie Suzuki tried to prove she deserved a full-time spot in the Renaissance, but Daffney's Banshee Knee had her staring at the lights instead. (C+)

Footage from a recent press outing promoting the debut of Renaissance: Takako Inoue welcomes her old friend and frequent tag partner Kyoko Inoue to WCW, telling her that between her beauty and Kyoko's ferocity, they'll rule the Renaissance. Kyoko ignores her and walks away without response. (C-)

Free agent Tomoko Watanabe showcased some effective brawling, but brawling is nothing new to the Anderson family. Melissa pinned the veteran with a nice German Suplex. (C-)

Toshie Uematsu had a chance to make a major statement on the debut of Renaissance against one of the most recognizable women on the roster, Chigusa Nagayo. Uematsu resorted to numerous shortcuts to gain the upper hand, but the former Crush Gal withstood them all and got the win with the Super Freak (a tiltawhirl powerbomb.) (B)

Nagayo cuts a post-match promo, thanking the fans for turning out and urging them to continue supporting this new age of women's wrestling. As she begins walking to the back and shaking hands with fans, she notices Aja Kong sitting in the front row, her AAAW Singles title over her shoulder. Nagayo approaches Kong to speak with her, but Aja pointedly ignores her as we cut to commercial. (B+)

It was time for the long-awaited rematch, the main event of the inaugural Women's Wrestling Renaissance. Mita focused all her effort on attacking Toyota's neck, obviously to set her up for her signature innovation and finishing move, the Death Valley Driver. Manami was more about fast-strike offense, pinning combinations and a quick tempo. Just when Mita finally had Toyota on her shoulders for the DVD, Toyota squirmed free and hit the Ocean Cyclone Suplex! Manami Toyota becomes the new Women's World Champion to cap off this historic night! (B)


Show Grade: B

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October 7th, 2002

From Conte Forum in Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts

Attendance: 7,884

Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart

The show is supposed to open with a Stu Hart Classic opening round match between King Corino and TAKA, but we find out what Corino meant last week when he said they'd have the last laugh--TAKA simply lays down and allows Corino to pin him! Corino and Eric Bischoff cut a post-"match" promo mocking Arn Anderson as well as all the fans for thinking they could drive a wedge between The Empire. (A)

We cut to Arn Anderson backstage, looking disgruntled at the mockery The Empire had just made of the Stu Hart Classic. He's approached by Chavo Guerrero Jr, who says he knows Arn was planning on putting American Dragon into a #1 contender's match for next week, but Chavo claims that after his win last week Dragon is putting all his focus into the Stu Hart Classic. He volunteers to take Dragon's place in the #1 contender's match, and a preoccupied Arn agrees to book Chavo vs. Billy Kidman next week, with the winner challenging Christopher Daniels at Halloween Havoc. (C-)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group C: Sean O'Haire decimated Disco Inferno in a one-sided beating. (B-)

Backstage: Scott Steiner gives his brother Rick a pep talk for his main event match against Booker T tonight. "Just leave a little bit left for me to finish off at Halloween Havoc!" Scott shouts. (A)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group C: In a battle of former stable mates, Chuck Palumbo defeated Mark Jindrak with the Thrill Ride. (C+)

Palumbo cuts a post-match promo; he says that he carried everyone in the original Natural Born Thrillers faction, and he carried O'Haire for their entire yearlong title reign. He's much better off in The Empire now that he doesn't have to carry any dead weight, and he'll prove that he was the star of the Thrillers in his second round match against O'Haire at Halloween Havoc. O'Haire is shown watching backstage, smiling and cracking his knuckles in anticipation. (B)

Road Warrior Animal challenged Fit Finlay this week. Animal isn't used to being on the losing end of a brawl, but that's just what happened tonight as Finlay recorded his 5th title defense. (C-)

A video package reveals that the WCW front office has listened to both fan demand and a request from the Hardys, signing a championship rematch between the Hardys and True Heroes for Halloween Havoc. Both teams record comments on the announcement, with the Hardys saying they're looking forward to finally shutting the Heroes' big mouths, and the Heroes declaring that they'll not only win their titles back, they'll meet in the finals of the Stu Hart Classic in what will surely be the greatest match of all time. (B)

Hugh Morrus and Konnan picked up an easy victory over local tag team The Heartbreakers. (C-)

Pre-taped promos: Rey Mysterio Jr. looks forward to continuing his comeback with a win over The Unnatural at Halloween Havoc; whether he's Dustin Rhodes, wearing gold paint or red paint or whatever color of paint he wants, he still won't have an answer for Rey's flying fury. The Unnatural says it's a good thing Rey put the mask back on. It'll help conceal his bloody and ruined face, which will be far more gruesome than even the most elaborate Halloween costumes. (A)

With Brian Adams watching, Christopher Daniels took care of local rookie Eddie Edwards in a non-title match. (B)

Mortis approaches Sting backstage to tell him that he may dress in black, but he doesn't know the first thing about darkness. He promises to introduce Sting to the true darkness in their Stu Hart Classic match at Halloween Havoc. Sting, not cowed, says he looks forward to it. (A*)

Bobby Heenan interviews new World Women's Champion Manami Toyota. Via satellite from Japan, Toyota displays the belt proudly and says it'll be her honor to represent WCW as its champion every week on Women's Wrestling Renaissance. (B-)

Stu Hart Classic, Opening Round in Group C: Every pundit considered Diamond Dallas Page the heavy favorite against Shane Helms. This was understandable considering Page's credentials, and his victory seemed all but certain as he measured Helms for the Diamond Cutter. But then--


Kimberly came out from the back. DDP broke off to ask her why she'd come out yet again, and Helms rolled him up for a 3-count! (C+)

Pre-taped promos: The Destroyer mocks AJ Styles for even thinking he has a chance at Halloween Havoc. AJ admits it'll be an immense physical mismatch, "but the bigger they are, the harder they fall!" (B+)

In an in-ring promo, Davey Boy Smith says it's been quite a road back from battling his personal demons to get to this point, and winning the US title at Halloween Havoc would be a major moment for him both professionally and personally. Shane Douglas steps out into the aisle and tells him to keep dreaming. "You had your moment in the sun, Bulldog. Your big moment came when you pinned your brother-in-law in the main event at Wembley. But that was over a decade ago, and the present belongs to Shane Douglas!" (B+)

After Booker's cheap-shot with the belt during last week's contract signing, Rick Steiner was eager to exact some revenge. He hit Booker with some hard blows and big suplexes, but his leg gave out on him after Booker's focused attack on it throughout the match, and the Book End swiftly ended the match after that. (B+)

Booker's post-match gloating is cut short by Scott Steiner, who sprints to the ring to get his hands on the champion a few weeks early. Booker flees before any damage can be done. (A)


Show Grade: B+






October 12th, 2002

From Shizuoka, Japan

Attendance: 5,000

Announce Team: Tony Schiavone and Tracy Brooks

Manami Toyota in-ring promo; she thanks the fans for supporting and believing in her, and promises to be a fighting champion. (A generic babyface promo, basically.) (B+)

Charismatic freelancer Sakura Hirota routinely entertains the Japanese fans with her comedic approach to wrestling, but wrestling Devil Masami was no laughing matter. The veteran absolutely battered Hirota, refusing to go for the pin so she could keep the beating going. Eventually referee Charles Robinson awarded the match to Masami by forfeit simply to protect Hirota's health. (C)

As Hirota is helped to the back, Masami grabs the microphone. She promises that what happened to Sakura was only the beginning, because we are now on The Devil's Road. (C)

Kaori Nakayama is the more familiar name, especially to Japanese audiences, but she found herself on the losing end tonight when young LuFisto connected with a diving headbutt. (C-)

With Ryu Nakata providing voiceovers, a video montage promotes the Anderson family legacy and Melissa Anderson as the continuation of that legacy. (D+)

Sonoko Kato is known as a tag team specialist, and perhaps that was why Nattie Neidhart was able to wrestle her to the mat and get a submission with the Sharpshooter. (C)

Etsuko Mita promo; anyone counting her out after last week's loss will be disappointed, because she's not going to shrivel up and go home just because she no longer has the title. (C+)

Aja Kong is again in the front row, and Ryu Nakata tries to interview her. This time she speaks; she declares herself the real women's champion (displaying her AAAW Singles title to prove her point) and blames Chigusa Nagayo for her not being recognized as such. Nagayo takes exception to that, coming to ringside and telling Kong that it pained her to sell GAEA, but it was the right move for the future of women's wrestling. Kong can be part of that future, if she agrees to sign the contract and join the Renaissance. Kong scowls and storms off. (C-)

The main event featured the WCW debut of Kyoko Inoue against a more familiar face to WCW fans, Shinobu Kandori. Takako Inoue showed up halfway through to watch the action, but it wasn't clear who she was rooting for (if anyone.) Kandori used her judo skills to pull off some nice throws and submission holds, but there was no doubt about the outcome once Kyoko hit her devastating Victoria Driver. (B)


Show Grade: B-





Thanks to both smw88 and KYE for whipping up some logos for Renaissance! I'm using one of KYE's designs here in the dynasty, so that's the one you guys will be seeing--but I'm using smw's in-game, so I'll be seeing that one a ton. Best of both worlds!

You might have noticed, but I've decided to scale back on the Spotlight Segments. Rather than doing one every week, I'm going to save them for segments that I feel are really important/momentous and need more detail (like that Flair retirement angle.)


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Yay!

I have a question.....do you just have a "women's division" in game or do you put them as integrated so they actually have card ranking such as "main event" "upper mid"? One problem you may run into is that you can't run the girls too long of matches because the game will treat all your female workers like they are midcarders.

You could probably switch your settings to see how your girls get autopushed.
It was a Women's Division until the launch of the new show, at which point I was always planning to switch to integrated. I had to manually fiddle with their pushes though. None of them autopushed any higher than Midcard (and I think that was just Toyota and Mita), and most of them were set as Enhancement Talent or Openers. Obviously that's because the game is basing that on their popularity in the US, which is irrelevant in this case.

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Really like how you introduced this new show and how you went in depth with it. I'll be honest, I at first, wasn't really looking forward to this new show. The way you went in depth with the whole roster, changed that. Im excited to see what the future holds for these women in WCW. Really looking forward to it!
I'm happy to hear that! I thought that introduction was necessary since the roster is mostly made up of new characters. It was as important for me as for you guys I think, because I'm by no means an expert on joshi wrestling! (I think I am going to try out Stardom World for at least a month though, after the G1 Climax is over.)

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Still following. Still loving it. Elated that you decided to continue. One question: did you reveal what happened to Luger and I just missed it, or has that not been addressed?
He's in rehab. I mentioned it in a news post when it happened. I don't remember exactly when it was, but it was within the last few in-game months.
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Loving both shows and I'm curious to see how quick the American women are going to learn Japanese now they are performing in Japan every week.

It is sad to see Flair go out but he is stubborn and probably would have (unwillingly) jobbed for many years after this point and a man of his status doesn't really deserve that. I think it was a very heroic ending for him.
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