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Unread 11-18-2009, 03:24 AM
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I do hope this puts them out of the title picture for a while though and gives Alissa and Ayako more time. And yeah the BP where never great wrestlers but LVE is just awfull and I really mis the chemistry between love and Velvet in promos.
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I'm watching Turning Point now (work sure got a lot more fun since I got my own office) and I just watched the Beautiful People match. I liked it. I really didn't think this show would make me want to watch Impact again, but this match kinda did. I knock TNA a lot, but the Knockouts just have more personallity (well... gimmicks) than the Divas, and I dig that.

Lacey was well protected, she didn't embarrass herself. I've always liked Velvet in a 'wrestling skill has nothing to do with it' kinda way. Madison totally won me over in that match. After reading Remi's positive review I was looking extra closely at her, and she seems pretty good. She was the one taking all of Taylor & Sarita's high flying spots and she bumped off ODB's clotheslines like she was getting hit by a frieght train. Solid heel work. Making the babyfaces look good.

Also, I like the Sarita/Taylor team. They remind me of early Motor City Machine Guns in the way that they are two vaguely similar workers, put into a team seemingly at random, but have thrown themselves totally into it with matching outfits and dual poses. It's very cute.
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Unread 11-18-2009, 06:12 AM
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just finished watching the show myself today. i thought it was great i skipped a few spots like the lashley match. though i was shocked from my predictions of the winners i really cant believe they had stiener beat lashley with a freaking steel pole was very lame. im a lil confussed that kong lost, for one odb has acted like she was turning heel and then stayed face (she was attacking tara a lil if u remember) which is fine with me but they built kong up so much to lose to tara which is what i dont understand y have another odb vs tara fued? dont get me wrong i love tara but we havent seen a odb vs kong match in a while and it will be the first one with odb being the champ. im also surprised there was no interferences or dq's i really though kim was going to attack tara or the mystery guy attack aj. the angle match was freaking awesome it was up there with one of angles best matches and tnas best matches imo. did anyone catch the name of the moved aj did the shooting star to the outside, the announcers called it something it was great though i think it was one of the best spots on the match. does anyone else feel like this kevin nash thing is a set up? i really dont think hogans going to ally himself with nash again right off the bat....
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Yeah only naming him Hulk instead of the full name could be a set up for someone else. Tara vs. ODB hasn't been done for the title as a true feud yet though there was just some tension going into the BFG three way. I agree that Kong still should have gone over though and Steiner winning was weird but it gives extra legs to the feud so did 3D and Rhino winning which was the other surprise imho plus that it wasn't a streetfight as semi advertised.
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The "Shooting Star" that AJ did was a Fosbury Flop. It's not a wacky name for a cool move, but rather the technical term for how high jumpers clear the bar in modern athletics. It's so named because it was popularised and perfected by Dick Fosbury in 1968.

The rest of the show was fun. Nigel needs to work on his kick outs. They look really weak. The finish of Beer Money/British Invasion/MCMG just made me not want to watch TNA ever again. Really fun match spoiled by a ridiculous ending involving two characters I have no interest in seeing.
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Unread 11-18-2009, 10:25 AM
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Well yeah, but she fits the theme of that group. The Beautiful People has always been a group of women known more for their looks than their in-ring ability. They're TNA's version of the Divas. I thought that was obvious.

Lacey fits them perfectly. Though Madison Rayne can wrestle decently, she's not anywhere near the league of a Kong or Tara or Melissa or Sarah Stock or Ayako Hamada or even Shantelle. But she's the capable one in the group and the other two are serviceable at best. All Lacey has to do is be tall and vaguely menacing (in a 'Mean Girls' kinda way).
Angelina Love could wrestle, but after she got fired now their stable is sort of falling apart. Then again, maybe their stable ending would be for the best. They were entertaining when Angelina was there, but now they are just annoying IMO.
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Unread 11-18-2009, 12:32 PM
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The "Shooting Star" that AJ did was a Fosbury Flop. It's not a wacky name for a cool move, but rather the technical term for how high jumpers clear the bar in modern athletics. It's so named because it was popularised and perfected by Dick Fosbury in 1968.

The rest of the show was fun. Nigel needs to work on his kick outs. They look really weak. The finish of Beer Money/British Invasion/MCMG just made me not want to watch TNA ever again. Really fun match spoiled by a ridiculous ending involving two characters I have no interest in seeing.
thanks thats a kick ash move thats only my 2nd time seeing it.
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Yeah only naming him Hulk instead of the full name could be a set up for someone else. Tara vs. ODB hasn't been done for the title as a true feud yet though there was just some tension going into the BFG three way. I agree that Kong still should have gone over though and Steiner winning was weird but it gives extra legs to the feud so did 3D and Rhino winning which was the other surprise imho plus that it wasn't a streetfight as semi advertised.
yea tara and odb hasnt fued for the title but its still a face vs face but i think their turning odb for this, but i really think kong got screwed they should of had kong win beat odb and then either had a 3 way match for the title or a rematch with tara but now we might see it reversed hopefully tara wins and feuds in a 3 way or with kong again
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Angelina Love could wrestle, but after she got fired now their stable is sort of falling apart. Then again, maybe their stable ending would be for the best. They were entertaining when Angelina was there, but now they are just annoying IMO.
tbp wasnt bad until lve showed up i usually dont mind crappy wrestlers long as they have something going for them they could do in the ring or on the mic but imo she has nothing i dont even think she looks that good imo shes the ugliest out of all tbp. i say they just need to either add one more girl maybe even add the melissa girl (kongs former manager i really dont think ive seen her actual face but shes still a great wrestler and has a body) or ditch lve and keep it 2 people until the find a better replacement or love comes back
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Unread 11-18-2009, 01:48 PM
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missed the last impact, but I found out they are posting them free on spikes site now so I'm part way through. Have to say it's the hottest TV crowd I think I've heard on their show. I don't know if it was the opening segment that got the crowd started, or if they planted mics or whatever. But the crowd has been active non stop.
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Unread 11-18-2009, 02:02 PM
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tbp wasnt bad until lve showed up i usually dont mind crappy wrestlers long as they have something going for them they could do in the ring or on the mic but imo she has nothing i dont even think she looks that good imo shes the ugliest out of all tbp. i say they just need to either add one more girl maybe even add the melissa girl (kongs former manager i really dont think ive seen her actual face but shes still a great wrestler and has a body) or ditch lve and keep it 2 people until the find a better replacement or love comes back
Melissa was Awesome Kong's manager, but she's also Alissa Flash. She's doing fine with her current gimmick. I just don't like the direction they are taking The Beautiful People. None of those three are good on the mic IMO. Sorry about that kinda-rant!
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thanks thats a kick ash move thats only my 2nd time seeing it.
You should check out the Summer Olympics. It'll blow you mind.

I'm half joking. It did look really cool. I'm just surprised anyone can find it that impressive as I was taught how to do that in High School. I'm guessing it wasn't a standard technique taught all around the globe though.
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Anybody else think that Sting will do some more matches?
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Unread 11-18-2009, 02:08 PM
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Angelina Love could wrestle, but after she got fired now their stable is sort of falling apart. Then again, maybe their stable ending would be for the best. They were entertaining when Angelina was there, but now they are just annoying IMO.
For the record, Lauren "Angel" Williams has never been a particularly good in-ring performer. Neither has Talia (Velvet Sky). They've both been either heavily protected by tag team partners (April Hunter, for example) or kept as primarily 'personalities' or 'managers' (go look at OVW/DSW footage when Angel was there).

That's not to say they 'suck', just that their strengths don't lie with their in-ring prowess. When you put them in the ring with experienced multi-style vets like Kong, Melissa, Stock, it becomes easily apparent. Many people don't know that Kong has really good charisma and could work a gimmick akin to Mark Henry's 'Sexual Chocolate'. But that's not where her typical strength lies.

Personally, I think the best addition for TNA would be Tiana Ringer, if she's done getting her Master's.

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i say they just need to either add one more girl maybe even add the melissa girl (kongs former manager i really dont think ive seen her actual face but shes still a great wrestler and has a body) or ditch lve and keep it 2 people until the find a better replacement or love comes back
erm, rod? Melissa = Alissa Flash = Raisha Saeed She was working twice a show for some time now (often playing jobber as Alissa Flash).
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Melissa was Awesome Kong's manager, but she's also Alissa Flash. She's doing fine with her current gimmick. I just don't like the direction they are taking The Beautiful People. None of those three are good on the mic IMO. Sorry about that kinda-rant!
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erm, rod? Melissa = Alissa Flash = Raisha Saeed She was working twice a show for some time now (often playing jobber as Alissa Flash).
lol sorry like i said guys i never looked her up to actually see her face i thought she was going to be stuck in that gimmick a lot longer to even care to see her face. well shes awesome and i still think she could fit in with the gimmick she has now yea she might not be a tbp in looks but i could see the gimmick working with tbs.

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You should check out the Summer Olympics. It'll blow you mind.

I'm half joking. It did look really cool. I'm just surprised anyone can find it that impressive as I was taught how to do that in High School. I'm guessing it wasn't a standard technique taught all around the globe though.
what school u from? us ohio people dont get privileged with things like that my first year of high school was the first time they had a soccer team and a swim team so just to give u an example lol. so ur a gymnast? well id still like to see u try that jump over the ring ropes and take some guy out with out hurting him or u now thats whats impressive besides the fact the shooting stars r hard enough to do let alone right over a ring rope with just jumping. now u can do that i'd be even more impressed . maybe since u know how to do it ur not looking at everything everyone else is looking at, just think how long they was already wrestling and possible how slippery that mat could of been from everyones sweat and for him to hit it perfect like that without getting hurt is amazing if i was still a lil kid i would of flipped seeing that...
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what school u from? us ohio people dont get privileged with things like that my first year of high school was the first time they had a soccer team and a swim team so just to give u an example lol. so ur a gymnast? well id still like to see u try that jump over the ring ropes and take some guy out with out hurting him or u now thats whats impressive besides the fact the shooting stars r hard enough to do let alone right over a ring rope with just jumping. now u can do that i'd be even more impressed . maybe since u know how to do it ur not looking at everything everyone else is looking at, just think how long they was already wrestling and possible how slippery that mat could of been from everyones sweat and for him to hit it perfect like that without getting hurt is amazing if i was still a lil kid i would of flipped seeing that...
I wasn't saying it in a negative way, or to sound superior. I'm genuinely surprised that the 'Fosbury Flop' isn't a thing that people automatically know. Then again, I'm British, so I probably went through a vastly different curriculum than most folks in the world.

Also not trying to take anything away from AJ either. He's a physical freak. However... I think I could probably do it. I'm no gymnast. I haven't flopped for several years. I'm not even particularly tall. Still, give me a couple of goes practice and I reckon I could clear those ropes. Could I land properly? Probably not. Could I do it without hurting Joe & Daniels? Perhaps not. Could I do it in the middle of a wrestling match? Oh God no. Never said I could.

AJ is awesome, it just makes me chuckle to see folks this excited about such an 'exotic' move. Not just you, but I've been on other forums that were completely marking out.
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'Fosbury Flop'? Let's stop giving it a fancy name, it's a freakin' high jump I am seriously amazed if American schools don't do High Jump.
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