Grey Dog Software

Go Back   Grey Dog Software > GDS Central > World of Mixed Martial Arts 5 General Discussions
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Unread 02-09-2018, 04:59 AM
USNNJB9's Avatar
USNNJB9 USNNJB9 is offline
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 88
Default

does anyone else cut the super weight division out of gamma at the beginning of there game? as a weight class super heavy weight annoys me for some reason
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Unread 02-09-2018, 05:33 AM
PythonV PythonV is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 19
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by USNNJB9 View Post
does anyone else cut the super weight division out of gamma at the beginning of there game? as a weight class super heavy weight annoys me for some reason
It's practically a joke division for people who don't want to cut weight and a few freaks IRL, so it annoys me seeing it in the game even if it's portrayed as a burgeoning division. I think it ruins my suspension of disbelief more than the cg renders honestly.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Unread 02-09-2018, 08:12 AM
USNNJB9's Avatar
USNNJB9 USNNJB9 is offline
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 88
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PythonV View Post
It's practically a joke division for people who don't want to cut weight and a few freaks IRL, so it annoys me seeing it in the game even if it's portrayed as a burgeoning division. I think it ruins my suspension of disbelief more than the cg renders honestly.
my whole life heavyweight was the pinnacle for all combat sports, the most risk and reward, but like you said super heavyweight is a joke
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Unread 02-09-2018, 12:40 PM
Bigpapa42's Avatar
Bigpapa42 Bigpapa42 is offline
Living Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8,305
Default

Don't get the hate for the super heavies lol. Yeah, they aren't great to start with. But that creates a challenge to build the division, doesn't it? And while there aren't that many real life fighters who would fit nicely into a super heavy division, the Cverse isn't reality and its nice to have a bit of divergence.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Unread 02-10-2018, 03:41 PM
Blackman's Avatar
Blackman Blackman is offline
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Belgium
Posts: 4,526
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigpapa42 View Post
Don't get the hate for the super heavies lol. Yeah, they aren't great to start with. But that creates a challenge to build the division, doesn't it? And while there aren't that many real life fighters who would fit nicely into a super heavy division, the Cverse isn't reality and its nice to have a bit of divergence.
True. I hate it, but it's very easy to cut. For now I'm holding on to it, but for how long? I just created a women's division and featherweight division and both are already more successful than the SHW.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Unread 02-10-2018, 08:55 PM
BrokenCycle's Avatar
BrokenCycle BrokenCycle is online now
Super Star
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,281
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigpapa42 View Post
Don't get the hate for the super heavies lol. Yeah, they aren't great to start with. But that creates a challenge to build the division, doesn't it? And while there aren't that many real life fighters who would fit nicely into a super heavy division, the Cverse isn't reality and its nice to have a bit of divergence.
I've found that the Super Heavyweights are in a better position than in 4, as they can main event really quickly. However, the division just sucks. It's not really about building up the division, because the talent pool is basically a glass of water.

I don't mind the division, but it gets a little old when you have to keep giving title shots on one win winning streaks, then you look at the Compare screen and it's a bunch of red text all over.

It's pretty meaningless, really. There was one game in 4 where I decided to axe it at the start of the game, and it was... fine. I don't have any strong feelings about the SHWs.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Unread 02-10-2018, 10:35 PM
White Dolphin White Dolphin is offline
Minor League
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 387
Default

I moved Tim Boyer to SHW cause Foster was holding him up, only to watch the spaghetti ensue: Kapur beat Foster, then Boyer lost his title match to Hanley Polter.

At any rate, its important to note that as of this patch the game is super generous with the pop giveaways in local shows, so you'll get a crew of Mid Level Regional guys rising up to SHW within a year. Even with no talent, you'll still have some marketability and the fights don't generally tank ratings-wise unless its two wrestlers deciding to have a clinch-fest, so you can eventually build up some talent. Polter's a pretty decent champ if you can keep him there cause hes decent on interviews and building up feuds, and of course theres always the chance ALPHA-1 contracts come up and you can swipe some of their contenders or Palmer Lette.

I can get not liking the division due to it producing one-dimensional 1993 fighters, but with some elbow grease and clever booking you can maybe make some minor TV main events or undercard title fights if you're like me and run the occasional 3-4 title fight supershow.

Also, I've seen in some other dynasties that people use Big Magic to immediately siphon pop to an up-and-comer and send him on his way. I think it might be more effective to feed him a couple cans and build him up for a possible TV main event showcase against some of the LHW prospects (or a guy like Valentin Taneyev if the athletic commission is ok with that). Karl Martin and Jethro Munter are the cans I use from the regional scene, and you can also try Bill Cumming although you may want him for the other prospects. Magic might be able to beat a guy like Ricky Heath as well but that could be pushing it.

Alos be warned if you're going to do an all-star Featherweight COTT that Ziskie and Li-Kong Ho will big-time you. What i do is have the COTT winner get a shot at the winner of Ziskie v someone for the Featherweight title on a later show. Brubaker and Regueiro are also pretty decent choices for the coaches, you can even go with a North America v the World type theme where the XCC guys are on one team and SIGMA/KDM/possibly Freddy Lomax are on the other team. Watch for Yagi Jochiki though, the kid's got spark and is super dangerous, but lacks marketability, so even if he wins he might struggle to get over. Might be best to build him up the long way.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Unread 02-11-2018, 01:53 AM
USNNJB9's Avatar
USNNJB9 USNNJB9 is offline
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 88
Default

i chuckled at the bit about valentin taneyev and the athletic commission , i have never put my own fighters in the cott i just let the game create a new batch of gens .
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Unread 02-12-2018, 01:02 AM
USNNJB9's Avatar
USNNJB9 USNNJB9 is offline
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 88
Default end of year 2002 gamma

the only thing i have changed in the db is formats of fights for all promotions to run as follows 10 x 3 min fights for titles and main events , and 8 x 3 min fights for non title / main event bouts. also i added the knock down rule for the 10 count feature. I have added way to many division and im regretting it, i have 400 fighters on my books as well . CRED 84 % STAB 91 %

i ended the year at $15, 000 ,000 high level national with CANN and NAPS
im not going to get to into my lower weight classes which are still defining themselves

HWC James Foster 39-4-1 made 2 defenses in 2002
HW#1C Rav Kapur 14-1 3 KO in 2002
There is a bout scheduled between the two fighters in January of 03
LHWC Mike Watson 17-1 2 KO 1 TKO 3 Title defenses , last one against Letoussier which arguably he was losing until he knocked out Letoussier in the 10th round via head kick.
LHW#1C Spencer Rubenstein 19-6 1-1 in 2002 lost a UD 77-75 all 3 judges and Had KO victory as well, Rubenstein doesnt seem to want to fight Watson for some reason, him and Letoussier are hot for each other right now. Watson is on Medical suspension but i plan on having him defend the belt after Letoussier and Rubenstein fight , i was trying to get Letoussier to have the belt and i figured it would be a good promo because there beef level is at nuclear hahaha but the Watson rally in the 10th crushed my hopes .

MWC who other than Matthew Dean 41-5 defended the belt 3 times in 02 , 2 UD , 1 RNC on Buddy Garner who was handling himself well in the fight , Garner and Dean traded many Knock downs in the fight and i had it even going into the 10th but Dean finally got Garner to the deck and got a RNC.
MW#1C Osmosis Benn 21-2 fought twice in 02: 1KO 1 UD

WWC Manuel Silva 21-0 1 UD 1 KO in 02 , will rematch against Regueiro
27-2 who is the WW#1C losing the belt than bouncing back with 2 wins in 02 wins coming by early bout submissions

LWC Fiyero Lermontov 20-0 2 KO in 02 voted fighter of the year as well.
LW#1 Helio 22-1-1 3 TKO in 02

when i finish 03 ill input the other weight classes i added, which are males feather and bantam , womens feather bantam , fly , and straw weight. that is if i dont cut all the women fighters and divisions cause it might just be a little to much for me. hahahah
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Unread 02-12-2018, 12:34 PM
Bigpapa42's Avatar
Bigpapa42 Bigpapa42 is offline
Living Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8,305
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackman View Post
True. I hate it, but it's very easy to cut. For now I'm holding on to it, but for how long? I just created a women's division and featherweight division and both are already more successful than the SHW.
I don't begrudge anyone who chooses to get rid of it. If you don't want to bother and don't find it fun, that's fine. I just find it odd and amusing when there are comments that its a joke division and ruins immersion. Like there is genuine vitriol toward the division and no one should see any value there at all.

Its the only division where you don't start with world class talents in GAMMA. Its the only division (except maybe if you add a women's division or two) where you can't just sign world class fighters right at the start. And building talent up can be a grind - you don't know for sure whether younger fighters will develop, and counting on top level new fighters to be generated (whether thru COTT shows or just randomly) is a crapshoot. But that randomness is part of what makes each save unique in WMMA. Personally, I enjoy that dynamic.

Got 2 shows into my first GAMMA save before I decided I should start over. Went too hard with the new signings and can additions. Signed up a bunch of the newly-added young fighters who have just a fight or two so far. I added both Featherweight and Bantamweight. Added a new season of COTT for the featherweights, with Li-Ho and Gaffigan as coaches. The fighters were half lower rep fighters and half generated. Most of the generated fighters will be nothing more than cans, but one was a potential superstar who was the highlight of every episode. That was fun but realized I should have signed fewer, so starting again. Going to add Featherweight division only, with Bantams being added later. Rather than signing up all those promising but one-dimensional fighters, I'm going to short shortlist and scout them. Give them time to have a couple of local fights before I grab them.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Unread 02-12-2018, 04:41 PM
Thesnake101 Thesnake101 is offline
Low Minors
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 135
Default

First few months into the game, and I had Alan Kendall absolutely blast Rufus Stephens minutes into their fight. He's currently feuding with Nathan Chambers, who picked up a win of Gabriel Gallego, but I think I might go ahead and give him a shot at the winner of Regueiro/Silva, since Brubaker broke his hand whilst putting a beating on Darin Blood that sent him into a hiatus.

Running a COTT season focused on FWs, with Morrison and Curbeam as coaches, as a mean to either get Sean back on track or have a new star break into the top 10 at LW. Lamont Banner got eliminated in his first fight courtesy of Fernando Peragon's power, another mild upset was Foggy Lee beating Snorri Gunnarson by decision. First person to have made it into the semis was Freddy Lomax, whom I fancy to make it into the finale.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Unread 02-12-2018, 10:58 PM
BrokenCycle's Avatar
BrokenCycle BrokenCycle is online now
Super Star
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,281
Default

I had a good UFC 100.

Reply With Quote
  #28  
Unread 02-13-2018, 03:27 AM
USNNJB9's Avatar
USNNJB9 USNNJB9 is offline
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 88
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokenCycle View Post
I had a good UFC 100.

thats awesome ... cupples is low key one of my favorite fighters on the game.... im working on trying top sign him on my save.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Unread 02-13-2018, 08:42 AM
Blackman's Avatar
Blackman Blackman is offline
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Belgium
Posts: 4,526
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigpapa42 View Post
I don't begrudge anyone who chooses to get rid of it. If you don't want to bother and don't find it fun, that's fine. I just find it odd and amusing when there are comments that its a joke division and ruins immersion. Like there is genuine vitriol toward the division and no one should see any value there at all.
Well the division survived the first year of my GAMMA game, all thanks to "Big Baby" who is MLN. He might do better than Lermontov, who isn't exactly the most charming dude. Banner and O'Neill head the new weight classes, but I forgot I signed the women to a standard deal and she was booked against Dixon and lost the match as my champ. Oops. Thankfully that doesn't hurt your cred.

My "problem" with the division was more the general drought of talent.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Unread 02-13-2018, 09:03 AM
USNNJB9's Avatar
USNNJB9 USNNJB9 is offline
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 88
Default

anyone got tips on dethroning dean without cheating in the editor , although i will say it does get me invested into his fights but he just had a 10 round decision with napier which i felt he lost , it was very shady , ironically i had made my self a judge in the db before starting the game and "i" had the fight 97-93 which was dramatically incorrect the other judges had it 96-94 which i still do think was wrong there was no way this fight was a UD maybe a split... i guess im ranting at this point , if you have any suggestions on fighters to try and put him against please let me know.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.