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Unread 05-26-2010, 06:29 AM
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Question Why do I get penalised so heavily in the overall show rating?

Here is the overall score

and here is the full match card

Main Event=95
Semi main event = 95
Av of all other matches = 71
Av of all matches(including the Main event and semi main event) =77.8
Av of all angles =87.5

Perfect Show theory turned on
Booked all matches that were promised in the Advance Bookings
Lost a National Battle recently
Followed the 70:30 ratio of Matches : Angles


So 70% of 95=66.5
20% of 95 = 19
10% of 71 = 7.1

Therefore total score should be 92.6.
So why did I incur a penalty of 6.6 ratings?



I am constantly getting penalties of 5-6 rating points. Don't understand why?I know I didn't follow the Perfect show theory but that single handedly won't cost me 6 rating points would it?

Help!!!
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Unread 05-26-2010, 06:31 AM
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Your Openers look a bit low, and the Opener is an important part of the final grade. I don't know the percentage, but after the Main & Semi-Main it's the most important match.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 07:22 AM
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Your Openers look a bit low, and the Opener is an important part of the final grade. I don't know the percentage, but after the Main & Semi-Main it's the most important match.
Really?! REALLY!?! (Just doing the Miz-thing here ) Truly I believe that is something some of the board members have came up themselves with no evidence.

My guess is that your semi main-event got bit higher grade than your main event. Was there any negative notes after the show? Those also drop the overall grade easily
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Unread 05-26-2010, 07:24 AM
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Yeah, what Self said. However, I have to say, that looks like an awesome show.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 07:35 AM
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Really?! REALLY!?! (Just doing the Miz-thing here ) Truly I believe that is something some of the board members have came up themselves with no evidence.
Yeah, I believe Adam somewhere said this was (opener thing) is not true.
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Really?! REALLY!?! (Just doing the Miz-thing here ) Truly I believe that is something some of the board members have came up themselves with no evidence.

My guess is that your semi main-event got bit higher grade than your main event. Was there any negative notes after the show? Those also drop the overall grade easily
The undercard makes up 10% of the final rating. You always want your opening match to be a good one. Why? Because you want to get the crowd hot and set a precedent, "this show is going to be good." So I don't think it's been made up.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 07:39 AM
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Yeah, I believe Adam somewhere said this was (opener thing) is not true.
Wow. I had no idea.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 07:46 AM
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Yeah, I believe Adam somewhere said this was (opener thing) is not true.
This actually disappoints me because that's how I've booked my shows for the longest time. The shows I put on work well with that technique, so I guess I'll stick to it.
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This actually disappoints me because that's how I've booked my shows for the longest time. The shows I put on work well with that technique, so I guess I'll stick to it.
Ditto. I've developed certain 'rules' for booking shows over the years, less to do with TEW mechanics and mathematics and more to do with what I like to see on wrestling shows. Put an angle between every match. Never have more than one tag match. Start with a strong opening match.

Worked well for me thus far, so no point changing it now.
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Just to add to the original question, the average of all your major angles that are 4 minutes or more is calculated, and compared to the weighted rating of the matches. If the angles are better than the matches, you get a bonus, based on you big the difference is; if they are worse, then you get a similar penalty. By your own calculations (which I assume are correct, but am too lazy to verify), your angles were 5.1% lower than your matches.

That, coupled with your semi-main likely being microscopically better than your main event (which causes a penalty), results in penalties that can account for that kind of drop. If your semi-main had been a 94, you probably would have gotten a point or two higher final grade.

As was mentioned, that card looks slammin'. I would definitely drop the bucks for that show.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 09:19 AM
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Well the actual reason why people think why it affects to the show rating is that it actually does. But not in the way you think it does. Let me explain;

If you start your show with a lackluster match, and have no hot angles, the crowd is going to be bored etc. So that affects whatever you put out next, because the crowd 'was not hot' (or whatever it is it says in the game.)
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I think the "opener has to be really good" thing is the result of confusion more than anything.

Yeah, it should probably be good because you want to get the crowd's mood up, but it doesn't in and of itself have any greater effect on the overall rating than any other match in the undercard.

Edit: Yeah, what Snoopy said ¬_¬ I got distracted by Assassin's Creed before clicking post.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 01:59 PM
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This opening thing is really getting me confused..Looks like everyone here is confused about the 'opening match has to be the 3rd best match' theory.

The only reason I don't like to put on the very good opening show is coz then the next match has a note saying 'This segment fell flat after the previous one'. 'This match was penalised for lowering the crowd's mood.'

I rather like to follow the WWE way as in put the worst match 1st,then the 2nd worst , then the 3rd worst and so on till the best match is the Main event.

& Thanks for all the booking complements

& yeah can some one please confirm if or if not the OPENER match has something to do with the ratings coz the HELP FILE certainly doesn't mention so.

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Just to add to the original question, the average of all your major angles that are 4 minutes or more is calculated, and compared to the weighted rating of the matches. If the angles are better than the matches, you get a bonus, based on you big the difference is; if they are worse, then you get a similar penalty. By your own calculations (which I assume are correct, but am too lazy to verify), your angles were 5.1% lower than your matches.
Av score of all the angles 87.5 while that of matches is 77.8. All my angles were above 4 minutes except the surprise appearance of Marat Khoklov.

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That, coupled with your semi-main likely being microscopically better than your main event (which causes a penalty), results in penalties that can account for that kind of drop. If your semi-main had been a 94, you probably would have gotten a point or two higher final grade.
Alrite that maybe a factor but a penalty of 6 points for that?
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Yeah, I believe Adam somewhere said this was (opener thing) is not true.
Yeah I recall reading him say that as well. All though for the life of me I can't remember what thread it was in.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 02:16 PM
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Yeah I recall reading him say that as well. All though for the life of me I can't remember what thread it was in.
I have to admit, that does look like somewhat of a low rating. Not sure why it's as low as it is, I woulda thought it shoud be higher. Obvious questions to ask... are you being told you are over-using people a lot? Are you getting messages at the end of the show saying anything at all, really?

As for the opening match... it has an equal rating with all the other matches that count towards the 10% of the show outside of the main matches. BUT it does have a significant influence on your TV ratings. People will tune in and stay tuned in to a show with a hot opening match. This is what people are getting confused with a lot now.
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