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READ OR DIE

These are the rules. Many mods have contributed to these rules. Many thanks to all of you. If you are unsure about something, PM Tha Black Phenom or mjdgoldeneye for questions.

THE OFFICIAL RULES (Read or Die!)

HOW TO PLAY:

ROLES: Every player has been given a role, each with it’s own abilities (or lack thereof). Your role PM will explain what it does if you are meant to know. You do not need to reveal your role to other players nor will we do so in the in-game write ups. Of course, you can choose to reveal information about your role if you wish to if you feel it would help you to reach your win condition. Jut remember that any information you reveal can also be used against you, so claiming is entirely at your own risk. If you want to use your ability, PM the mods of the game (Tha Black Phenom and mjdgoldeneye). Do NOT post it in the thread unless your role PM states otherwise.

PHASES: The game is split into two phases, Day and Night. The game begins during the day phase with all players (Town and Mafia alike) posting in the thread deciding who to lynch. Lynching is the town’s main way of eliminating mafia, so be sure to examine everything that your fellow players say in order to find inconsistencies, lies, dodgy voting patterns and anything else that could incriminate people. There may also be clues in the end of phase write ups, but relying on those is not advised as they may be veiled, misleading or otherwise unreliable. Day phases last approximately 48 hours or until a consensus is reached on who to lynch. Night phases last approximately 24 hours but may end earlier if all night activities are completed. If you have an optional ability and choose not to use it, please inform the mods via PM so that they know not to wait on your ability.

VOTING: All voting and game related discussion is to occur within the game thread. Town players may discuss who they think are Mafia, and Mafia members should be trying to avoid being lynched by bluffing and blending in and generally trying to not get lynched. To vote on anyone, post VOTE: Username (MUST BE IN BOLD!). You can also change your vote by typing CHANGE VOTE: Username (AGAIN IN BOLD!). You can also change your vote to nobody by typing CHANGE VOTE: No Vote (STILL IN BOLD!). Your last option is to vote for a no lynch, meaning that you actively choose to not lynch anyone. To do so simply type VOTE: No lynch (BOLDED OBVIOUSLY!). All votes post in the thread for your vote to count and it must be in bold. If you vote within a quote then your vote won’t be counted, so if you mess up voting and quote it to edit it then it will not count.

DAY PHASES: A Day Phase is generally over whenever a person obtains votes from more than 50% of the total number of players remaining, at which point they are lynched. It can also end if the time expires before a lynch is reached, at which point a No Lynch will be declared. There are abilities out there that can change votes such as vote manipulators, multi-voters and no-voters so vote counts may not always be as they seem. When a person dies their role title will be revealed for all to see in the end of day write up.

NIGHT PHASES: Night Phases begin after a day phase has ended. During this time most abilities will be sent in to the mods (TBP effin rules and mjdgoldeneye), with the Mafia usually sending in their kills while the town send in names of people they want to use their abilities on, such as investigate or protect. The night phase will end once all abilities have been sent in or when the time limit expires, at which point the mods will do a write up of the night’s activities. The write up will reveal what players have been killed any some other events that happen depending on what the mods consider important enough to be in the write ups. Whenever possible, try to get PMs into the mods as soon as possible after the start of the night phase in order to keep the game moving along at a quick pace.

Once night has ended, a new day begins and the cycle repeats itself until win conditions have been reached. The Town generally wins when there are no threats left to them, the Mafia generally win when their numbers are equal to or greater than the remaining non-Mafia players. Remember, this is a team effort so if you think sacrificing someone may help your cause then go ahead.


GENERAL MAFIA GAME RULES:

No players are allowed to edit their posts EVER!. Whether it be to correct a typo or to remove some accidentally incriminating things someone has said, no editing of posts is allowed. While mods may choose to be lenient, the standard penalty for anyone caught editing a post is a mod kill.

All players should play to their role/alignment and play to win. While there are likely to be times that you have to do things against your best interest, any players who deliberately go against their win conditions risk being banned from future games for failing to play to their role and going against the spirit of the game.

Players are only allowed to post their role title from their role PM, that is the bit that says you are “Town Aligned Protector” or something similar. You can paraphrase things that your PM says but you are not allowed to directly quote anything else other than the role title from your PM, which is also the only thing players will see when you are dead. Related to this, players are not allowed to ask each other about the specific wording of any part of their roles. In other words, it is okay to ask another player if they are sure that their role means "X", it is not okay to ask another player if their role reads as "X". If the mods catch you posting anything that closely resembles what your role PM says then it will be grounds for a mod kill. You have been warned!

In game “role bets” such as “I will never play again if…” is strictly prohibited. If you do this then you will at minimum be replaced as soon as possible, with a maximum penalty of a mod kill. It may also lead to a ban from future games, mods don’t want players who will bet on things outside their games in order to try and prove something in a game so just don’t do it.

Though we can’t force you to post, all mods love to see active participants in their games. We advise everyone to check in at least once a day, as games can move pretty fast and it can be easy to fall behind if you are not on regularly.

Though this may also be a mafia game, try not to postwhore in the thread. Where possible try to keep things relevant to the game that is being played and try not to let arguments get out of hand. This game stirs up some passionate arguments and we understand that this will happen, but if anything turns into a personal attack then it ruins the fun for everyone. Be considerate.

Unless your role PM specifically states otherwise, no players are allowed to talk about their role, game plan, alignment, win condition or basically anything game related outside of the game thread. While mods can’t easily enforce this rule, any communication about the game outside of the game thread goes against the spirit of mafia games and spoils the game. Anyone caught doing this WILL be mod-killed. This is your only warning!

Once you are dead, you stay dead. You will not be allowed to participate in the game thread or continue to talk to people outside the thread that you could talk to before. So if you are a Mafia player who dies, you are NOT allowed to continue talking about the game to your Mafia team mates. No dead players will receive any extra information from the mods (Tha Black Phenom and mjdgoldeneye) when they die either. If you are dead, try not to post anything in the game thread as anything you say could be an unnecessary distraction to those still playing, though a quick post going “Oooooooo I’m a ghost!!” is generally okay, no-one is allowed to leave cryptic messages from the dead, notes on their corpses or anything like that. If you are dead, your contribution to the game is over.

Talking to other dead players is also frowned upon, as many games have been known to feature a revive type ability or need to have players replaced. Talking to other players outside the game means that these abilities can’t be used properly and that you can’t be used as a replacement, which can still have an impact on the game in play. So don’t do it!

When it comes to mafia games, nothing is ever as it seems. There can be things about your role that you don’t know about, other people can bluff about their abilities, people can lie, events can happen and write ups can be read in many different ways. If you have any questions about what is happening then you can get in contact with the mods (TBP and mjdgoldeneye) via PM, and if we can clarify anything for you then we will do what we can. But there are many reasons why we might not be able to, and in any such eventuality you will get a post simply stating the following ->

The mods for this game are Tha Black Phenom and mjdgoldeneye.

Let us all keep in mind that this is a game and should be an enjoyable experience.

DO NOT POST YET UNTIL GIVEN THE GO.

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Night 0

Despite all they went through, all the obstacles and challenges set aside, the sun was shining as bright as ever, and the flowers were bouncing and dancing to the wind. They often had little time to relax, but this was definitely one of those times and they were going to take full advantage of it.

Even though the enemies were all believed to be vanquished, their undying love for martial arts never ceased. Every once in a while, including today, they would leave in pairs to go train far away in deserted areas to always push their own limits. It just happened that today, their remaining friends would be left... unattended.

-----

They were almost there. They had bid their time enough, and they had to seize this opportunity.

With the amount of resources on their side this time, failure was no longer an option.

-----

They were flying carelessly all around the planet, side by side, as if they had nothing much to do. They were using more than moderate speed, while one of them was looking rather distraught.

“Why are you going so fast?”

“I just wanna show you something”
, he replied with a slight smirk on his face.

“But we've been going around for hours, are you sure you know where you're go--”

“Quiet! I just wanna... ugh, where is it!?”


He scrunitized all around him with his eyes, trying to find his supposed discovery. They had surfaced plains, forests, volcanoes, almost all parts of the Earth, to no avail. His companion, none the wiser, just had about enough and felt like giving up. Suddenly, after more ardent searching, at the brink of his eye he finally spotted it.

“There it is!”

He dashed downwards at alarming speed towards another random forest while his follower rolled his eyes, shrugged and decidely followed him, with slightly less speed and will. They both landed on the middle of nowhere, among tall trees and various animals either fleeing or exclaiming their presence. One of them walked forward with intent of finding his discovery at all costs. The other followed him without paying much attention, slightly taken aback when his partner screams:

“Look!”

Both of them arrived on the scene where they witnessed a weird looking spaceship, with a spider-looking structure to it. The tall vehicle majestically stood there immobile, while they both gazed at it for a few moments.

“Unbelievable. Who do you think this belongs to?

“I don't know... do you think this is good news?”

“There's only one way to find out.”

“What!? We're not gonna go near that thing... who knows who could be in there, and what could he have in store for us?”

“Come on. Nothing's gonna happen.”


Having said that, he levitated his body and staggered in the air towards the spaceship. He reaches near the roof of it, and looks all around it. He studied the structure carefully, eyeing it from all angles as his partner stood there, with his hands on his waist, slightly annoyed and wanting to do something else. But as he was ready to leave his partner hanging behind, he looks around himself, a bit startled.

“Hey... do you feel that?”

“Feel what?”


Suddenly, a big ball of energy was seen emerging out of nowhere towards the flying individual. He shrieked and evaded it instantly before the ball collided with a tall tree, provoking a moderate explosion, enough to desintegrate the top part of the tree.

“Wh-what?”

“Let's get out of here!”


And so they did, in a hurry.

-----

A large whoosing sound emanated as they entered Earth's atmosphere and descended towards a flat surface in a certain desert. Once the legs stepped onto the ground, the motor immediately stopped and everything ceased – silence followed.

“Conceal your energy. I know the first place we should go from here.”


-----

Meanwhile, he was holding his baton with a tight grip and his eyes closed. His assistant approaches him concerned, once he sees a drip of sweat flounder down his face. Suddenly, his eyes widened in a state of shock.

“Oh no! Something... terrible has happened to my fellow brothers...”


-----

They were dodging ki blasts and trading strikes all morning, with powerful ki emanating out of both parties. Suddenly, one of them stopped sparring as he posed his feet on the ground and looked away with his eyebrows frowned, right before receiving a swift brutal kick to the face – his partner was still into it, and upon landing a kick so easily and effectively, he knew something wasn't right. Seconds later, he realized what the matter was.

“You feel that strong power, don't you?”

A simple nod sufficed.

“It's an immense power, but yet... it somewhat feels familiar. I can't quite put my finger on it.”

-----

They wandered towards the first area they would set their permanent mark, a small island. After viewing the place and sensing the relatively low energy which resided in that house, one of them branded his arm forward, and a flash of light followed.

The entire island exploded into flames, with the people inside blown to smithereens. A grim sight, yet it was only the beginning.

-----

Meanwhile, something far away in space was slowly, but very slowly making its way towards Earth.

A strange phenomenon to say the least.

It was like an asteroid, but...

-----

“Hey, do you have what I asked you for yet?”

“No, sorry. It takes quite a while to finish it. I tried making the latest version so it'll take lots of precise monitoring, day in and day out.”

“Hmph. Well, tell me when you--”


KA-BOOM!

An earthquake starts to growl under their feet.

“What the hell was that!?!”

“Grrr. Looks like we have some company.”


-----

Earthquakes started manifesting all over the hemisphere as they started throwing vicious energy blasts head-on at high-population cities, starting with West City, and on from there. The death count was building up colossally in a matter of seconds.

-----

He gulped heavily and hid under a table. He definitely wasn't in the state he would want most to see him under, along with the slight tears coming out of his eyes.

-----

The space pods had finally arrived. When they landed, one of them opened itself, with the warrior pulling his arm out and reaching his body out carefully. He saw the small tremors roaming around him, as well as the sky turning.. a different shade of blue.

“Hmm. Looks like they've started already.”

-----

He was meditating.

He knew things started to get awry, and his only response was his eyebrows frowning.

-----

“Come now. We're gonna take you guys to Kami's Lookout.”

“What the hell is that thing talking about?”

“Just.. follow us. You can trust him.”


One of the beams landed as much as meters next to them, loud and strong enough to make some of them shriek.

“Alright, alright! Whatever! Let's just get the hell out of here!”

-----

He emerged from behind a bush after they had both left, and watching them leave, he kept a determined look on his visage as a drip of sweat formed down his cheek.

“Couldn't see who that was, but no matter who it is, they can't see me here.”

Following that thought, he looked up in the gray sky.

“Guess I came in at a bad time...?”

Then heard a small creeping noise behind him, turned around, and.. nothing. He figured it had to be some small rodent scurrying around in the woods. He was half right.

-----

He didn't know too much about this world and what it represented to him, but he knew things were not going well and they were in dire need of his help. He took it upon himself to dash towards the multitude of henchmen ruthlessly aiming at buildings and living people, almost all secluded in one area of the city. They then ceased, noticing his presence and certainly noticing his power. One of them shouted:

“Dispose of him!”

A collective mob full of scouter-wearing underlings immediately dashed towards the warrior, who kept his cool as always and then initiated a charging stance. He built his ki while staring intently at all the soulless low-level soldiers before branding his large sword forward and issuing an echoic voice:

“BRAVE SLASH!”

He lifted his sword into the air and a mixture of sheer light and thunder flew out before striking almost all the men in front of him, who had gotten mere meters away. The damage was effective and moments after, he advanced a few steps, knowing not all were harmed. Not even a half-dozen underlings were left, who he immediately disposed of by slashing them in half one after the other. Once he was done, he turned around to look at the carnage – unfortunately, he barely got a glimpse of it as he was greeted by a large beam instantly decimating him. His sword flew away and slammed into the ground handle first as the killer then flew away, with a disgruntled smirk forming on his face.







Tha Black Phenom is dead. He was that mob nobody cares about: Henchmen Aligned Low-Level Warriors
mjdgoldeneye is dead. He was Tapion: Z-Warrior Aligned Sword-Wielding Hero

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The Heroes' Last Stand

Survivors:


4. Jaded
5. GruntMark
8. The Shape
9. Comradebot
19. lprock
21. 400 ml/hellshock70
27. iMac
29. SmartBomb
31. petrija
35. Olivier le Fou


Winners:


4. Jaded is Jeice: Ginyu Force Aligned Soldier With a Scouter
5. GruntMark is Frieza: Cold Family Aligned Ruthless Overlord
8. The Shape is Captain Ginyu: Ginyu Force Aligned Froggy General
9. Comradebot is Guldo: Ginyu Force Aligned Four-Eyed Mutant
21. 400 ml/hellshock70 is Broly: Individually Aligned Legendary Super Saiyan
27. iMac is Burter: Ginyu Force Aligned Rapid Soldier
29. SmartBomb is King Cold: Cold Family Aligned Majestuous King & Royal Father


Write-ups:

Day 1 - No Lynch
Night 1 - Death of SuperOwens and Kobe1724
Day 2 - Lynch of Paws7297
Night 2 - Death of RebelliousAngel, BHK1978 and Glotnot
Day 3 - Lynch of Zeel1
Night 3 - Death of Midnightnick and Antithesis
Day 4 - No Lynch
Night 4 - Death of Zero9teen, Astil, Imarevenant and moon_lit_tears
Day 5 - Lynch of TakerNGN74
Night 5 - Death of Wrestling Century & bak42
Day 6 - Lynch of Max Peck
Night 6 - Death of Sniper Joe & BlueStar
Day 7 - Lynch of MichiganHero, death of Jman2k3
Night 7 - Death of TheKenwyne and Wallbanger
Day 8 - No Lynch
Night 8 - Death of masterded and Destiny
Day 9 - Lynch of ShadowedFlames, end of game


Graveyard:

-1. Tha Black Phenom is dead. He was that mob nobody cares about: Henchmen Aligned Low-Level Warriors
0. mjdgoldeneye is dead. He was Tapion: Z-Warrior Aligned Sword-Wielding Hero
7. SuperOwens is dead. He was Cyborg Tao: Human Aligned Ex-Mercenary With a Hand Knife
17. Kobe1724 is dead. She was Chiaotzu: Z-Warrior Aligned Telepathic Friend of Tien
22. Paws7297 is dead. She was Maron: Human Aligned Bimbo Who Resembles Bulma
34. RebelliousAngel is dead. She was Cell: Individually Aligned Imperfect Android
15. BHK1978 is dead. He was Bulma: Human Aligned Head of Capsule Corp. & Crafty Inventor
12. Glotnot is dead. He was Goten: Z-Warrior Aligned Half-Saiyan & Younger Son of Goku
2. Zeel1 is dead. He was Cooler: Cold Family Aligned Vengeful Galactic Overlord
16. Midnightnick is dead. He was Gohan: Z-Warrior Aligned Eldest Son of Goku With Massive Potential
28. Antithesis is dead. He was Android #16: Android Aligned Tall Inexpressive Pacifist
36. Zero9teen is dead. He was Krillin: Z-Warrior Aligned Bald Resourceful Fighter
1. moon_lit_tears is dead. She was Majin Vegeta: Majin Aligned Consumed Elite Warrior
20. Astil is dead. He was Hercule: Human Aligned World Champion
24. Imarevenant is dead. He was Recoome: Ginyu Force Aligned Muscular Toothless Brute
33. TakerNGN74 is dead. He was Videl: Human Aligned World Champion's Daughter & Great Saiyawoman
23. Wrestling Century is dead. He was Super Saiyan Trunks: Z-Warrior Aligned ****y Redeeming Half-Saiyan
13. bak42 is dead. He was Babidi: Majin Aligned Merciless Magician
10. Max Peck is dead. He was The World Tournament Reporter: Human Aligned Candid Reporter Who Expects the Unexpected
30. Sniper Joe is dead. He was Dende: Z-Warrior Aligned Sage Healer & New Guardian of Earth
25. BlueStar is dead. He was Android #17: Android Aligned ****y Rebel
6. MichiganHero has left the game. He was Super Buu: Individual Aligned Powerful Intimidating Phenom
3. Jman2k3 is dead. He was Chi-Chi: Human Aligned Temperamental Homemaker & Goku's Wife
26. TheKenwyne is dead. He was Mister Popo: Z-Warrior Aligned Loyal Caretaker and Magical Summoner
32. Wallbanger is dead. He was Piccolo: Z-Warrior Aligned Super Namek
18. masterded is dead. He was Tien: Z-Warrior Aligned Three-Eyed Focused Monk
11. Destiny is dead. He was Supreme Kai: Z-Warrior Aligned Benevolent Kai of the East
14. ShadowedFlames is dead. He was Super Saiyan 2 Goku: Z-Warrior Aligned Fearless Saiyan & Main Protagonist


It is day phase. With 36 players remaining, it takes 19 to lynch. You have until Thursday June 17th, 10 PM EST to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

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You might want to change the mods names in the rules post.
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In first...I have always wanted to do that!
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In first...I have always wanted to do that!
I guess in second!
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First I would like to establish the pecking order.

Me
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You

That is all.
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You might want to change the mods names in the rules post.
I don't see what you're talking about.
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Also can we get a players list on the first page please? Someone as awesome as myself surely needs it.
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Also also I don't have a dog, but if I found one I would be the best dog owner in the world.
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If you want to use your ability, PM the mods of the game (i effin rule and Imarevenant). Do NOT post it in the thread unless your role PM states otherwise.
^ahem^

Sorry BHK I beat you to it. Also for trying to steal my first to post spot
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I don't see what you're talking about.
Cool... Now do it 3 more times and that'll be all of them...
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First I would like to establish the pecking order.

Me
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That is all.
LAL. Vote: Astil.
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Okay Destiny you know the drill why did you and your scum buddies kill Tapion?

Also:

Bak: Don't silence me bro

Max Peck: Don't VIG kill me bro

And everyone else: Don't Hang Me Bros and Broettes.

That will be my last overly non-sense post of the game (well all of my posts are non-sense but you all catch my drift).
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