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Unread 02-10-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default What did you think about Last Nights Smackdown 2/9

The Good: Batista actually wrestling a match longer than a fishes life span. It was a good match too. Batista looks good as champ, but their is something about Kendey that wont allow me to think of him as a main eventer. No.... i think of him as a bus driver as he just doesnt looke like a wrestler. Still, a great match on his behalf. I also loved the booking for the PPV. I finally feel like opening my wallet for a Smackdown PPV. the diva talent contest, the ladder match, Kane vs Booker and boat loads more. I do have a bone to pick with the rivalry development with those matches but most have been feuding for a while withoutbeing too serious.

The bad: Was I the only one who fell asleep during Kenedy's promo? And would it kill the WWE to have a debuting tag team NOT squash existing tag teams who were doing very well without them? Seriously, they're killing London and Kendricks momentum. And Im almost positive that even though they'll win in the end.... by then... one one will care.

Overall: Good show with solid booking set up for the PPV. I love how Raws the storyline show while Smackdown quenches the thirst for the more wrestling orientated fan. Lets hope they keep doing this. But what do you guys think?
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Unread 02-10-2007, 01:31 PM
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Agree with most of what you say, and liked most of what I watched. Because I agree with so much of what you say, what I'm about to say will seem negative, but I see no need to reiterate all the positives you just laid out. So...

Personally, I'm not into the Deuce & Domino gimmick. I just can't take it seriously. They're slowly improving, but I agree that having new, debuting tag teams squash existing tag teams (especially the champs) is not the smartest thing in the world. Then again, at least Smackdown has a legitimate tag division. And I liked the match, though one of the Deuce Domino guys needs to work on his...in-ring work.

Batista's match was ok for me. I wish he had sold his arm at the end even when he Bastista'd up. Would it have hurt for him to hold onto his arm while starring at 'Taker?

I'm not into WWE's treatment of the Hardy's & MNM in terms of working both brands. If they want the Hardy's or MNM together, great, but get them all on one show, not mixing and matching them back and forth. It makes the already non-serious brand split look like even more of a joke, no matter how many Smackdown vs. Raw videogames they sell.

Look forward to Rey's return. I just hope he's not buried, again.

I'm not a fan of JBL in the ring, but he's terrific & hilarious as a color commentator IMO.

Questions:
- Where were Chris Benoit and Chavo Guerrero? Don't leave two of your strongest in-ring workers off the show?!
- What happened to the 'business venture' that caught Vicky's eyes two weeks ago?
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Yeah, I love JBL as a CC. The guys hilarious. He's like Tazz times 2 and a refreshing change from "Good ole JR" and the King.
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I'm with you on the Deuce & Domino push & Kennedy (maybe b/c he's just "average" size compared with Batista?). It just sort of feels like he should get his butt kicked by the bigger guy and anything else would be kinda unrealistic.

I do like him on the mic though.
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I'm with you on the Deuce & Domino push & Kennedy (maybe b/c he's just "average" size compared with Batista?). It just sort of feels like he should get his butt kicked by the bigger guy and anything else would be kinda unrealistic.

I do like him on the mic though.
I like his attitude (Kennedy's), but I have to say I aggree with the unbelievability of him being able to match up. Everyone he works with looks like they are holding back all the time. It looks phony as heck, when he hits someone Batista's size, and we are supposed to believe he hit him hard enough to knock him 15 feet the other direction....

JBL is Dynamite as a color Commentator. He is still playing his character throughout the whole time since he sat in the chair, but he is hillarious. He always goes for the heels, outside of the people we all want to say the same comments about "Look at his Hair, for christ sake!" "He doesn't belong in a ring, more like a circus act!" (Talking about Miz). "Why shouldn't we take him seriously JBL?" "He's wearing a dress!! How can anyone take him seriously?"
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JBL's rant a few weeks ago about how there were two clowns in the ring and if either of them became champ he would burn his boots and eat his hat... gold!

I have to disagree with people about Kennedy though, honestly I think he's had the fairest push out of anyone in recent years. He didn't come along and storm to the title, he hasn't done anything to make people outright sick of him, he hasn't languished in midcard hell, he hasn't been in any stupid storylines... He's given enough time to get himself over, but not so much that he's pushed down throats.

When did Kennedy hit a bigger guy and they went flying 15 feet? I certainly don't recall it, unless you mean when he threw UT off a stage, causing him to FALL. What would you expect, for him to fall halfway 'coz Kennedy's not so big? Please.

Fact is, Kennedy's been carrying Batista, and doing a great job of it. Something was up with him taking whips to the buckle on SD, but other than that he's been solid. He's bigger than plenty of guys who've been in the ME scene before, especially on SD (Eddie, Rey, Benoit, etc). He's great on the mic, versatile in the ring, what more do you need?
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I think just more time. I don't know, but he's just unbelievable to me at times. 15 feet was an exageration (I guess I should have said that when I posted it, sorry).. I'm mainly talking about his manhandling of the Brother's of Darkness on a couple of occasions. Batista aside, the man has done some highly questionable things (going to Tombstone the Undertaker?).

I DO like his ****iness, I sometimes like him on the Mic. I sometimes find him very boring on the Mic as well. However, I find alot of people boring on the Mic. Batista comes to mind when I think boring.

Last Smackdown, last two minutes in the match with Batista and maybe the first 30 seconds, that's how those match's should go, unless "something" happens. I don't care how well someone's move skill is "allowed" to be, their is a time when one goes... Hmm, how come that hurt him (Undertaker, Batista, etc.) so badly, when I can't believe that would hurt me? Swapping punch's?? Against someone that's supposed to be the best puncher on the roster (Undertaker)?

Yeah, I feel like the bigger guys are always held back when he's in the ring. They have to SLOW way down... If you haven't noticed that, maybe your not being fair to the "older" guys or something? I've seen Ric Flair move twice as fast on average then Batista move's against Kennedy (or Undertaker, or Kane...). I've seen Batista move 4 times faster in just about every match but when he's in the ring with Kennedy. You see it as Kennedy "carrying" Batista, I guess maybe you really think Batista is "that" much slower? I don't know.

I'm not going to try to change your opinion on Mr. Kennedy though. I do like him on the roster, and overall think he brings something Smackdown needs to the roster. I just find his match's somewhat tiresome. I do like two moves he does though.

I would say I'm a fan of Kennedy, and if I had to choose between the two (Batista and Kennedy), I'm not sure I would pick Batista, as I feel he's not going to be there, or able to be there for very much longer.

I know everyone see's a different match then I do, but I just don't feel that having one person slow down to half speed so the other has time to do these "amazing" things, makes someone good.

My opinion... Finlay needs to get the Title, lol.
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I don't see Kennedy going for the Tombstone as that much different to when Orton did it at WM21. They're around the same size after all.

Trading punches I agree, but it's not like Kennedy has UT reeling in pain, he just stands his ground for a while before going down himself.

Honestly I think Batista's just slowed down altogether. Against Booker and Finlay he just had his impact spots, not much moving about. His spears are always slow and he never seems to do more than 3 steps as a run up.
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Batista DID seem a bit slow to me. He seemed as if he were legitly injured. and very.... weak.

But Im not here to argue Kennedys ability. Because his talent rivals Chris Benoit. But he doesnt have that mean look that would go with his current "thing" right now. I just dont beleive that a guy who looks like a janitor can be such a bada$$. He reminds me of Chris Jericho in the sense that he has the talent and a bit of charisma but shouldnt be pushed to the moon like Kenedy is doing. I didnt buy Y2J as the undisputed champ and Im not buying Kenedy as a Maineventer.
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Batista DID seem a bit slow to me. He seemed as if he were legitly injured. and very.... weak.

But Im not here to argue Kennedys ability. Because his talent rivals Chris Benoit. But he doesnt have that mean look that would go with his current "thing" right now. I just dont beleive that a guy who looks like a janitor can be such a bada$$. He reminds me of Chris Jericho in the sense that he has the talent and a bit of charisma but shouldnt be pushed to the moon like Kenedy is doing. I didnt buy Y2J as the undisputed champ and Im not buying Kenedy as a Maineventer.
Are you being sarcastic with the bit in bold?!
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Are you being sarcastic with the bit in bold?!
I don't think he is. I think we are on the same wavelength as far as Kennedy goes... No one is denying the man is full of talent and Potential. We are saying that it's hard to believe someone that looks like him is that powerfull, or able to actually do the things they make him look like he is doing legitimately.

I think when a statement is made of "I'm not buying into Kennedy being ME Material" is being read as "I don't think Kennedy has the potential to be ME material." That's not really what I've been saying, and I don't think he is saying that either. Just right now, he cannot successfully convince us that he is ready for that leap. I like him, I would keep him, I even said I would probably choose him over Batista if I only could choose one person. The reason is because of Potential, not what he is able to do right now.

Batista to me (speaking just for myself now), is going to be gone within' two year's if we are lucky to see him that long. I think Kennedy could possibly be around for a bit longer. I also think Kennedy has the potential to become a main player in the Mysterio/Eddie/Beniot kind of way.

Let's take Mysterio... Did anyone really buy into him being the Champion? He got beat weekly by every single opponant that JBL threw his way. We wanted him to be Champ though, that's why it worked. Benoit is kind of the same way. I believe he deserve's it... I would even back another run by Flair. However, Kennedy just isn't making it in my book (yet). I Think he is very talented, I think he has the Potential to be there, I just feel that the time is not now.

The way I see Smackdown right now, Finlay is the one I would push for the title. He gains momentum faster then anyone I've seen before, even better then himself when he was younger, lol.

All I'm saying is that just because someone isn't a ME person to them, doesn't mean they don't believe they have talent.
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Yeah, I don't think it was being said that Kennedy has THE SAME talents as Benoit, just AS MUCH talent. And I totally agree.
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Ok... I get what people are saying, and I agree Kennedy is a very talented guy (from what I've seen), got a good look, good on the mic, etc, etc, and has more charisma than Benoit, and better mic skills, but I think Benoit is one of the best wrestlers in America at the moment. Does KK have the potential to be as good? Possibly, but I still think comparing Benoit to Kennedy is a tad premature. I know this is a cliche, but Benoit has probably had more world class matches than Kennedy has had matches.

I do agree with the sentiments of their pushes and of Reys as well, though. But taking the earlier statement at face value, I do not think Ken Kennedy is as talented as Chris Benoit.
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I don't think he is. I think we are on the same wavelength as far as Kennedy goes... No one is denying the man is full of talent and Potential. We are saying that it's hard to believe someone that looks like him is that powerfull, or able to actually do the things they make him look like he is doing legitimately.

I think when a statement is made of "I'm not buying into Kennedy being ME Material" is being read as "I don't think Kennedy has the potential to be ME material." That's not really what I've been saying, and I don't think he is saying that either. Just right now, he cannot successfully convince us that he is ready for that leap. I like him, I would keep him, I even said I would probably choose him over Batista if I only could choose one person. The reason is because of Potential, not what he is able to do right now.
Exactly what I was saying. Not that Mr. K sucks or doesn't have potential just that I'm having a hard time buying him going over bigger, stronger opponents right now.

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Smackdown is far better than Raw at this point every week in my opinion because they still have talent (except of course for their champion). The rest of the WWE (Raw and ECWWE) are just guys who do "entertainment" moves. Nothing fun about them at all.
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