Fighter Stats For Discussion

[Ghostface]

To me it seems unlikely that someone which has great strength cannot through a good punch, assuming they had training in doing so. I am sure that Matt Hughes could through a good punch if that was his strategy. Simply he knows that technicaly that is not his strong point so he works on his strengths.

They might be able to throw a hard punch due to thier overall strength, but punching hard and throwing a good punch are totally different things. Bad technique takes alot of the power off your punches.

[TylerDrew]

Wow better than I couldhave hoped for the only thing I could think of is "Durablility" which would cover how likely an injury is.

[syndicate]

Originally Posted by Jacko00

Seems pretty good, I think the popularity should be changed though, heres why.

MMA does nt have many mainstream stars, at the moment its guys like Chuck Liddel and Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock, like Boxing I think MMA will only have mainstream stars like the champions of the weight divisions, so maybe instead of popularity there could be two groups, one likeabillity and mainstream, so that would let the player know if a) the guy is a peoples favorite and b) if he is known buy the general public or not.

maybe in north america...

in japan people like kid yamamoto are huge mainstream stars

i think those stats look pretty right of course its all going to change all i suggest is an excitement stat like i said in the other thred i know its not the most needed of the stats but it would be good to see it in there

[Adam Ryland]

Originally Posted by Capelli King

One question i would have is what is the point of "strength" if we have in virtualy in every category (legs, knees, ect) already have a power rating already attached.

In other words if a guy has strength he will basicaly hit hard everywhere if he has good technique and training in that skill.

Strength doesn't have to be about striking, in this case it's about natural physical strength. It's important for people like Rampage Jackson or Matt Hughes, who can pick people up and throw them around.

[Adam Ryland]

The first post has been updated with the changes.

[Ghostface]

What about punching from the clinch or dirty boxing as it's known to some.

[Adam Ryland]

I don't see it as needing a separate stat. I can't think of anyone who is known for being a great dirty boxer, so it may as well just be based on their normal punching stats as to how much force they can generate.

[ColtCabana]

I would like to see some sort of Showmanship stat, for the kind of fighter who has that ****y attitude and likes a flashy entrance.

[Ghostface]

Originally Posted by Adam Ryland

I don't see it as needing a separate stat. I can't think of anyone who is known for being a great dirty boxer, so it may as well just be based on their normal punching stats as to how much force they can generate.

Randy Couture, Jens Pulver and Matt Lindland are a few who use it effectively. Striking from the clinch is a major weapon in a few great fighters arsenals. It's alot different to throwing punches from range. Although if you wanted to keep the amount of stats down then keeping it grouped with the other punching technique/power stat wouldn't be too bad.

[Capelli King]

I think dirty fighting is a stat which could be added. But i do agree with Adam, that virtually no one relies on it. But then again virtually nobody relies on one skill anyway these days.

[Capelli King]

Originally Posted by Adam Ryland

Strength doesn't have to be about striking, in this case it's about natural physical strength. It's important for people like Rampage Jackson or Matt Hughes, who can pick people up and throw them around.

I got it now, strength determins their abillity to manhandle and pick up.

[Ghostface]

Originally Posted by Capelli King

I think dirty fighting is a stat which could be added. But i do agree with Adam, that virtually no one relies on it. But then again virtually nobody relies on one skill anyway these days.

Anyone who throws a punch in the clinch is essentialy dirty boxing, so I'd say alot of people use it. Some, especially Couture, have become pretty well known for thier skill in it aswell.

[toddthebod]

Wouldn't dirty boxing basically be involved with Muay Thai? It's punching from a clinch. I still think that stats should be something of a percentage instead of a letter but I'm positive that Adam will get this nearly if not perfect.

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by toddthebod

Wouldn't dirty boxing basically be involved with Muay Thai? It's punching from a clinch. I still think that stats should be something of a percentage instead of a letter but I'm positive that Adam will get this nearly if not perfect.

I don't know if it would cause like Couture has great dirty boxing but I won't consider him being a great Muay Thai fighter.