TNA - Like Company in the Cornellverse [Need your Opinion]

[Eisen-verse]

So, I'm looking to change things up in my game. Create my own database that is based off of the real database. All to be set in 2009.

With that being said. I want to create a "TNA"-like promotion. With that being said, pretty much a company that would be a smaller version (popularity wise) of the SWF with a little twist in a sense of making it seem different.

My question is... Who do you think would be willing to be on the roster? I'm looking for a possible person or two to "jump ship" from the "big two" citing a want for a "new direction". Pretty much a Kurt Angle/Christian Cage kind of situation.

I was thinking of just creating the company in my current game, however, what I've found with smaller promotions is that I can never really find enough wrestlers that I actually "want to push". I've done a couple indy promotions as of late and I always seem to land the same roster and push the same people over and over again.

All in all, Just thought I'd ask to see what others thought.

I was thinking possibly Ghenghis Rahn (tired of TCW's realism turn) or someone like Groucho Bling (tired of being labeled as an "over the top" babyface in the SWF and ready to finally "Break out" on his own).

Anyways, Just thought I'd ask others on the board to help me think through this idea.

Cheers.

[Mattlore Devious]

The Biggz - nearing the end of their career and facing increasingly stiff competition.

[Midnightnick]

You could always have JK Stallings return to the wrestling industry, opening yet another HGC (in this case, your TNA).

And a star ready to jump ship?

If you're gunning for a SWF Star. Squeeky McClean.
If you're gunning for a TCW Star. Genghis Rahn or Troy Tornado.

[takertitan]

Angery Gilmore if your going with the "mordern" TNA style. I did it once for a game(opened a cult promotion w/ gilmore as my ace).

[Rob4590]

Why would Genghis Rahn be upset at TCW's "realism" - after all his strength (I use the word loosely!) is brawling and hardcore - and realism in the product encourages brawling!

If you're going for a TNA type thing, then you need an X division - so people like the Biggz Boyz, High Concept, The Young Guns would be a good start.
Freddy Huggins, Chance Fortune etc.

From the other guys - Enygma, Squeeky McClean, Enforcer Roberts, even Runaway Train (he's been overtaken by Vengeance as the top monster heel and wants one last run at the top). Troy Tornado was a good suggestion as well.

[Mattlore Devious]

Guys like Troy and Angry Gilmore who are injured at the start are good, potential storyline is they become unhappy with the way they are treated when they are on the sidelines

[SaySo]

(Cornellverse)
What happens if a Hollywood movie star, who (fictionally) played a movie role of Sam Strong (say, in 2006), opened up his own wrestling company in 2008 based out of Hollywood. He has been in acting roles since the age of 4. His teen years would mimic the male-version of the Olsen twins.

His real world popularity would be based on the kind of popularity Heath Ledger got from The Dark Knight. He also played a role of a wrestling legend (CV) Sam Strong and is now well-known by wrestling fans.

Instead of going to SWF or TCW, he decided to open a wrestling Fed.

What kind of popularity #s would this promotion get in each respective region? What kind of popularity would this movie star get in those same respective region? In numbers, not letter grades. Of course, Southwest would be the hot spot for this character. What kind of reputation would he get?

More feedback would allow for averages. I want to give him 60> throughout with Tri-State and SW in the 85s. I am not really sure. But based on the description of this character, what would you give him?

[Rob4590]

Originally Posted by SaySo

(Cornellverse)
What happens if a Hollywood movie star, who (fictionally) played a movie role of Sam Strong (say, in 2006), opened up his own wrestling company in 2008 based out of Hollywood. He has been in acting roles since the age of 4. His teen years would mimic the male-version of the Olsen twins.

His real world popularity would be based on the kind of popularity Heath Ledger got from The Dark Knight. He also played a role of a wrestling legend (CV) Sam Strong and is now well-known by wrestling fans.

Instead of going to SWF or TCW, he decided to open a wrestling Fed.

What kind of popularity #s would this promotion get in each respective region? What kind of popularity would this movie star get in those same respective region? In numbers, not letter grades. Of course, Southwest would be the hot spot for these athletes. What kind of reputation would he get?

More feedback would allow for averages. I want to give him 60> throughout with Tri-State and SW in the 85s. I am not really sure. But based on the description of this character, what would you give him?

The 60's / 85 would be the absolute max I would give him. In real world terms - he would possibly compare to Mr T, who appeared at Wrestlemania soon after he had played Clubber Lang in Rocky 3. Whether that popularity would go with him into setting up his own company, I'm not sure though!

[lazorbeak]

Originally Posted by Rob4590

The 60's / 85 would be the absolute max I would give him. In real world terms - he would possibly compare to Mr T, who appeared at Wrestlemania soon after he had played Clubber Lang in Rocky 3. Whether that popularity would go with him into setting up his own company, I'm not sure though!

Mr. T was in the main event... anybody getting comparisons to "Heath Ledger" popularity is either an A-list celebrity that gets followed around or very near to it. I would say minimum 80 high in the mid 90's.

I mean, Pam Anderson was never in films (except the one), but in her appearances on WWF TV she was one of the most over names on the roster. This guy's a film star? He'd be over huge.

[Rob4590]

Originally Posted by lazorbeak

Mr. T was in the main event... anybody getting comparisons to "Heath Ledger" popularity is either an A-list celebrity that gets followed around or very near to it. I would say minimum 80 high in the mid 90's.

I mean, Pam Anderson was never in films (except the one), but in her appearances on WWF TV she was one of the most over names on the roster. This guy's a film star? He'd be over huge.

Seriously - Heath Ledger is only a "big name" in 2008 cos he died! If he was still alive, he would still be a nobody (relative to proper stars in the film world)

But that's way off topic - so back onto it:


I understand what you are saying but you need to look at it from game-balance issues - if you have this huge star (90 pop) then a lower wrestler beating him is going to give that wrestler a serious boost in his pop (whether the film star is an active wrestler or not)

Whereas if you look (again) in real world terms - would beating Mr T (if he wasn't with Hulk) have boosted any WRESTLER? No chance.

Even more extreme example - did Cena beating Kevin Federline do anything for Cena? Nope - and it did nothing for K-Fed either lol.

In the game (C-Verse) there are like 5-10 people in North America with 90% pop - so a film star is not in that league of WRESTLING popularity.

[TheTuckerman]

Originally Posted by Rob4590

If he was still alive, he would still be a nobody

Disagree.

His portrayal of The Joker, fantastic performance, maybe even eclipsing Jack.

[Jennie Bomb]

Originally Posted by Rob4590

Even more extreme example - did Cena beating Kevin Federline do anything for Cena? Nope - and it did nothing for K-Fed either lol.

Your example would work better if Cena had actually won. He didn't. He lost to K-Fed.

[shamelessposer]

Originally Posted by TheTuckerman

Disagree.

His portrayal of The Joker, fantastic performance, maybe even eclipsing Jack.

Considering one of them played The Joker and the other played Jack Nicholson in clown makeup I'm not sure where you're seeing any room for comparison.

[lazorbeak]

Originally Posted by Rob4590

Seriously - Heath Ledger is only a "big name" in 2008 cos he died! If he was still alive, he would still be a nobody (relative to proper stars in the film world)

But that's way off topic - so back onto it:


I understand what you are saying but you need to look at it from game-balance issues - if you have this huge star (90 pop) then a lower wrestler beating him is going to give that wrestler a serious boost in his pop (whether the film star is an active wrestler or not)

Whereas if you look (again) in real world terms - would beating Mr T (if he wasn't with Hulk) have boosted any WRESTLER? No chance.

Even more extreme example - did Cena beating Kevin Federline do anything for Cena? Nope - and it did nothing for K-Fed either lol.

In the game (C-Verse) there are like 5-10 people in North America with 90% pop - so a film star is not in that league of WRESTLING popularity.

Let me start with a real world example: Lawrence Taylor won in the main event of Wrestlemania XI. A guy with zero wrestling credibility wrestled in the main event of a "legendary" PPV and went over. Clearly the crowd was behind this football player non-wrestler to the point that nobody said "waitaminute! This ruins my suspension of disbelief!"

To use your example, Kevin Federline was a guy who was only a "celebrity" because of who he married: we're not talking about someone who became well-known through their portrayal of tough guy characters (like a Mr. T). And guess what: K-Fed was still hugely over. Would it have put over a midcarder to beat K-Fed in a match? Yes, probably. But most personalities give a rub to workers just by being in the ring with them.

From Dennis Rodman to Lawrence Taylor to Mr. T, we're talking about guys with hardly any ties to wrestling being treated as main event stars.

But what about game balance- after all, the C-Verse is totally different, right? Wrong. The game itself has a clear-cut example of a soap opera star being turned into a main event wrestler overnight. El Fuerza starts the game with 76% overness in all of Mexico, based entirely on his soap opera status. Is it so unbelievable that an American film project would make someone more well known than a Mexican Soap Opera Star?

Re: Heath Ledger: get real. He had just come off of a best supporting actor nomination and was in a project that everybody knew would be a breakthrough at the box office. To say he was only recognized because he died is just ignorant.