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[Eisen-verse]

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[Eisen-verse]

I never thought I'd say this but Orton sold that pretty well. The whole "I snapped" thing. It really seemed as if he was having an internal struggle after doing that.

How vicious of a kick was that though? wow. Last week's Sweet Chin Music on Cena looked wicked but this weeks "punt" by Orton just looked sick.

I'm actually finding myself starting to like Orton as a main guy.

[djthefunkchris]

I was so hoping he punted Stephanie too... Just would have been so classic.

[djthefunkchris]

So now what... Orton going to turn into "Stone Cold" Randy Orton?

[Eisen-verse]

Originally Posted by djthefunkchris

I was so hoping he punted Stephanie too... Just would have been so classic.

I was half hoping he would look stressed about kicking McMahon and then as Steph was calling for help.. He runs up as everyone is huddled over vince and kicks her in the head too. hah. Would sell even more of him being a cold blooded killer type. However, this way it makes room for another side of Orton with what happened.

So now what... Orton going to turn into "Stone Cold" Randy Orton?

That's what It seemed like to me. but instead of it being SCSA and Vince... It may be leading into a Stephanie McMahon and Orton thing.

[Trell]

Originally Posted by djthefunkchris

So now what... Orton going to turn into "Stone Cold" Randy Orton?

I think its gonna happen mainly for this reason. No matter how bad he was the week before he seems to get cheered more. and I remember thats what happend with Austin. so I think he will be like austin in the fact that he is no matter what he does, he's gonna get cheered.

[Tyler Gadzinski]

Originally Posted by Trell

I think its gonna happen mainly for this reason. No matter how bad he was the week before he seems to get cheered more. and I remember thats what happend with Austin. so I think he will be like austin in the fact that he is no matter what he does, he's gonna get cheered.

Triple H, what?

[GatorBait19]

Orton has gotten better at almost everything and I doubt many would argue that

But as an Austin type of person I could oddly see, I mean Austin beat the crap out of everyone good or bad, he didn't care and that is what Orton pretty much does

And think about it, the two people in his crew have a weird connection to Austin

Ted's dad was his manger, and Austin had many battles with the Rhodes family

So why not push him in an Austin type of way

[Eisen-verse]

Originally Posted by GatorBait19

Orton has gotten better at almost everything and I doubt many would argue that

But as an Austin type of person I could oddly see, I mean Austin beat the crap out of everyone good or bad, he didn't care and that is what Orton pretty much does

And think about it, the two people in his crew have a weird connection to Austin

Ted's dad was his manger, and Austin had many battles with the Rhodes family

So why not push him in an Austin type of way

I don't know if they should push him like Austin outright but if you're talking about the bad ass who has no respect for authority and such then I say go for it. Orton is already known as being kind of a dick so the character could work pretty well for him.

The thing where he lacks in that respect is the ability to truly cut a memorable promo. Austin could do it at the drop of a hat. So it could be hard for them to give him a mega push like that.

However, if they pushed him with a young guy who has no respect for anyone but himself (McMahon's included)... then i'd buy into it.

[GatorBait19]

Alright then, here is a new question



Who will be the next wrestler? Now I will give 6 names from the past and I wonder who you think could be the next.


Steve Austin: Randy Orton

The Rock: ?

Hulk Hogan: John Cena

Randy Savage: Jay Lethal (I think he has done a great job with the gimmick)

Sting: ?

Ric Flair: ?




Now I know they are all recent but if you have other people in mind then through them in there

[djthefunkchris]

Originally Posted by GatorBait19

Alright then, here is a new question



Who will be the next wrestler? Now I will give 6 names from the past and I wonder who you think could be the next.


Steve Austin: Randy Orton

The Rock: ?

Hulk Hogan: John Cena

Randy Savage: Jay Lethal (I think he has done a great job with the gimmick)

Sting: ?

Ric Flair: ?




Now I know they are all recent but if you have other people in mind then through them in there

My take is different.

Steve Austin: Randy Orton

The Rock: John Cena

Hulk Hogan: No one has been in that area... if you include Cena, have to include Rock. Cena drops on a dime for anyone.

Randy Savage: Jay Lethal

Sting/Raven: Jeff Hardy

Ric Flair: Jack Swagger/Brian Kendricks (but he sucks).

[jbergey_2005]

Originally Posted by GatorBait19

Alright then, here is a new question



Who will be the next wrestler? Now I will give 6 names from the past and I wonder who you think could be the next.

Ill add one Roddy Piper:Santino Morella

Steve Austin: ? No one too original

The Rock: ?No one too much charisma Cena is kind of mix between Rock and Hogan

Hulk Hogan: John Cena(pretty much is him)

Randy Savage: Randy Orton(he reminds more of Savagethan anyone right now)

Sting: CM Punk

Ric Flair: Not his charisma but I like what John Morrison brings when hes on




Now I know they are all recent but if you have other people in mind then through them in there

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[VTial]

Rick Rude: current John Morrison

Randy Orton: Cody Rhodes - Same athletic ability, same third generation lineage, same 2nd man to the big main eventer in a faction

(Heel) Owen Hart: Randy Orton - Contrary to what most people have said in this topic, the Attitude era Stone Cold was a tweener. He was no longer the Ringmaster during that transformation. He also fully transformed with the help of Bret who snapped and also became a tweener. No champion have yet done that for Orton. Owen Hart on the other hand, that guy was a heel when he was a heel and he also attacked everyone. Also came from a stint where he started out as a guy given a plate of opportunity and then just started to become meaner and meaner and more manipulative.

Tatanka: Batista

Honky Tonky Man: Santino Marella

Madusa: Michelle McCool

Goldust: Shelton Benjamin - Sure, Benjamin has no manager and less charisma but Goldust has less in-ring technical skills. Also both do their promos in the titantron screen then walk down the ramp. Both are also now pretty much highly touted gatekeepers at their time who were more over than when they were being pushed.

Bret Hart: Paul London - both got screwed for stupid reasons, both elevated their particular style despite being limited to 6 moves of doom, both were small guys (for their days) that has shown the potential to carry a promotion but never gets respected enough to be a sought after prospect that are given instant pushes

Vader: Samoa Joe - both big men who are starting to gain a reputation for being over no matter how lackluster their matches are; also both who are highly praised for being able to do stuff that most men their size couldn't do, both also had two similar major gimmick changes: 1st gimmick was a large and over big wrestler that does stuff other than power moves, 2nd gimmick was the same gimmick except cancel the losses and give them huge monstrous undefeated winning streaks and sell them as an even more over guy

Ken Shamrock: Kurt Angle - personal bias; having not seen the UFC when Ken made his way to the WWE, his movesets were a breathe of fresh air. Little surprise why up to this day I'm bored when I watch Angle. His modified Angle lock that was so highly praised by fans constantly gets countered in ways Shamrock's ankle lock wouldn't have been.

Bad-ass Taker: Big Show - based on how they approach their promos and their finisher change transition.

The Rock/X-Pac: The Miz - this one's a crap shoot. Both Miz and Rocky started out as guys who had the skills to wrestle but obviously people didn't respect their movesets and they just get heat from their stale gimmicks for some reason. Even today The Miz isn't really as over when wrestling without the help of Morrison but the guy has constantly surprised people with his singles matches including a brief match where he out-technical wrestled Benoit although Chris was already in his WWE 6 moves of doom post-championship run. That said, X-Pac also had the same stint. Highly charismatic. Could sell a decent to great promo even as the 1-2-3 Kid. Constantly surprised fans including popularizing the Bronco Buster into the X-Factor. Guy got stale though by fan perceptions and then got X-Pac heat.

Edit: My mistake. The Bronco Buster was a separate move. I remember X-Pac having so many trademark moves (for his time) that I didn't consider to check wikipedia until I remembered X-pac's finisher was called the X-Factor and it wasn't a Bronco Buster.

[The Shape]

Goldust/Shelton....no :P

[VTial]

Yes, he is. They specifically made the belt to attract gold like a magnet that they were able to use the materials to clone Goldust and resurrect the man.

You didn't think it was just a coincidence that Goldust started bothering Santino at around the time Shelton lost to Santino did you?