I Want A* Matches!

[WeeMan]

The title of the topic might seem to be a little ambiguous but it's pretty simple actually, hope to get a lot of responses, especially from the guys that play TEW 2008 longer than me, and are experts, but I'll be thankful for any advice.

I'm currently playing an arcade game with my created federation Wrestling SuperStars Federation [WSSF]. Currently I'm Global, and everything is going great, barring one thing... I have the greatest talents in the world, over 20 guys on my roster are A* popularity in the whole world... but still, many of them don't produce A* or even A matches I know that A and A* matches are supposed to be hard to achieve, but I've seen many diaries and stuff when guys get A* matches with guys like Goldberg or Hogan, so guys that are pretty bad/average at best in the ring, but have the popularity...

Can someone help me alter my product, so I get more A and A* matches? Currently I have Mainstream on Key, Comedy on Heavy and everything else on Low... It brings me solid ratings, but solid is not enough now - I need good or great shows... I use wrestlers with all the styles, so I thought that I have to have a little bit of every style in my product, so wrestlers like Super Juniors or Psychopaths don't get booed, but... it doesn't seem to work that well.

So, can someone please help me with my product, so I could get better match ratings? For example, The Rock vs. Steve Austin had 2 matches with each other, B and B+... and it just can't happen, both are international superstars with A* popularity everywhere, good skills especially in brawling... It's A surely, A* preferably

Can someone help me with that?

And while I'm on the subject [it's my topic, I'll take advantage of it! :P] I'll ask another thing - why is it that some people just bomb in angles? Certain people, even with A* popularity and entertainment skills can't take part in a good angle - guys like SCSA, Kurt Angle, Kevin Nash... They get B- in angles rated on popularity when they are A* everywhere... And it's only them - every other wrestler can get me an A or A* segment without problems...

So once again, I'm counting on Your help, would appreciate if it was fast, as I want to play my game... NOW! :P I just love the game, it's so deep and addictive... Adam Ryland is the man, forget Ric Flair!

[James Casey]

Your product doesn't seem especially conducive to great matches - it's more of an MTV/Crash TV style of product, where the matches are secondary to the rest of the show.

At a guess (and someone will be able to offer detailed advice) upping the Traditional value to at least Medium, if not Heavy, will allow you to get better matches. It may be worth investigating upping Cult or Modern as well, as I have a feeling they place more emphasis on matches... but again, just a guess.

You may also find it easier to limit your roster to a few complimentary types - its rare that a wide but shallow roster will excel, as workers will clash through contrasting styles.

Make sure you're not overdoing your matches - i.e., few gimmick matches, and they should be running 10-20 minutes for your most over guys. Short matches just don't have enough time to build to anything special in most cases, hence why TV matches are rarely memorable. Likewise, longer matches may take too much out of your guys, or they may not have the psychology to make the most of the time available.

[WeeMan]

Originally Posted by James Casey

Your product doesn't seem especially conducive to great matches - it's more of an MTV/Crash TV style of product, where the matches are secondary to the rest of the show.

At a guess (and someone will be able to offer detailed advice) upping the Traditional value to at least Medium, if not Heavy, will allow you to get better matches. It may be worth investigating upping Cult or Modern as well, as I have a feeling they place more emphasis on matches... but again, just a guess.

You may also find it easier to limit your roster to a few complimentary types - its rare that a wide but shallow roster will excel, as workers will clash through contrasting styles.

Make sure you're not overdoing your matches - i.e., few gimmick matches, and they should be running 10-20 minutes for your most over guys. Short matches just don't have enough time to build to anything special in most cases, hence why TV matches are rarely memorable. Likewise, longer matches may take too much out of your guys, or they may not have the psychology to make the most of the time available.

Thanks for Your response.

I guess that what You say makes sense - I'm trying too hard to mix all the styles, and match ratings might hurt a bit...

Could someone try to confirm the information that James Casey provided? Is Traditional that important?

I'd be very thankful for advice on this one, if anyone has questions about my game - ask me, I'll provide You with more detailed info so You could have a better overview of the situation... The fact is that I have a huge amount of A* popularity guys and A and A* matches appear hardly ever... any help is appreciated.

[Self]

A* Popular guys doesn't necessarily mean you should be getting A* match. Not even with great workers. A* matches are rare and unpredictable. You don't 'deserve' to be getting them. I've been playing TEW08 since it came out, and have had a grand total of 2 of them. Neither of which had any A* popularity workers in them... AND I was running a Sports Entertainment promotion. It was luck.

That being said, I think James Casey's onto something. Mainstream and Comedy do strike me as putting focus and emphasis on angles more than matches. I'd definitely try upping Traditional, and perhaps lowering Comedy. I've only seen a few real life matches that I would give 5 stars, and none of them had an abundance of Comedy spots. Undertaker/Shawn (although I'd "only" give that an A) wasn't a laugh riot.

EDIT: Re-reading your above post, it sounds like you actually are getting some A* matches, so I have no clue what you're complaining about.

[The Shape]

Out of interest self, what were those 2 A*s you got? xD

[WeeMan]

I've had 2 A* matches in the history of my game. I also see that there are guys [see TEW 08 diary zone on this forum] that can get A and A* matches with Hogan, Goldberg, Savage... And I want to be able to do it as well That's what I'm talking about, I don't expect every match to be A*, but I'd like to have the best possible product...

Thanks for responses, still waiting for more.

[FlameSnoopy]

A* means 99.1% - 100%. It means an INSTANT classic, something you don't see every day, every week or every month. It means something EXTREMELY rare, and that's why it's A*. And I wouldn't complain, I haven't got a single one of them

[WeeMan]

I understand that, but even if that's the case - I want more A matches then... I want to have the optimal product that can bring the best out of my super talented and super popular guys.

[Self]

Originally Posted by The Shape

Out of interest self, what were those 2 A*s you got? xD

Both were in CGC games... perhaps the same one. I can't remember.

The first came when I borrowed Dan Stone Jr from TCW for 3 shows. The aim was to Main Event a PPV with a dream "Stone vs DeColt" match, but first, I needed to feed Danny a win, so he could hit the ground running with great momentum right off the bat. I decided to feed him Ryan Powell, who was on the cusp of the Main Event scene, with around B+ popularity. That TV Main Event got A*. No build. No storyline. No titles. No chemistry. No DeColts. Everything just went right on that night and I lucked out.

In case you're interested, I believe the resulting Stone/DeColt dream match got a B+.

The second came after I brought in Sean McFly. I spent a few months building him up, then put him in a feud with reigning Champion (and Corporate tool) Alex DeColt. Alex cheated to retain in the first two matches, and it was Sean's last chance at CGC Last Man Standing. He won the title and got me my second A* match. This one at least had a hot storyline building to it, so I found it less surprising.

I notice the AI has no problem getting A* matches... I ran a sim to 2015 and WWE was getting 2 or 3 a month... TNA would get a few a year... and the Japan promotions would see one or two almost every month... but as the player, getting an A* is nearly impossible.

[The Masked Orange]

I've only ever had one A* match. It was a match with no build, between Primus Allen and Tommy Cornell in TCW, on the T.V show.


A*!, and at that time Primus was a glorified jobber to me (I got bored with him after I gave him a monster push which led to the title, then just jobbed him to the upper midcard).

[Bigpapa42]

I've had 2, both featuring Christian Faith. He was A* popularity and probably around A momentum, but neither match revolved around a storyline. One was with Troy Tornado, who is a very good work but only had about B- popularity at the time, and the other was against Rocky Golden, who is mediocre in the ring but had B+/A popularity. I've had plenty of A* vs A* matches where both guys have great momnentum and it still doesn't happen. It does seem luck - everything has to fall into place. There have been plenty of matches where I thought "this could be an A* match!" and then "only" get an A or B+.

[WeeMan]

I'd kindly like to ask You guys not to hijack this thread and write about Your A* matches, but try to help me, if it's possible...

If You want to talk about A* matches You had, You could create another topic about it, or something...

I don't want to be rude, so sorry if I seem that way.

[lazorbeak]

Originally Posted by WeeMan

I'd kindly like to ask You guys not to hijack this thread and write about Your A* matches, but try to help me, if it's possible...

If You want to talk about A* matches You had, You could create another topic about it, or something...

I don't want to be rude, so sorry if I seem that way.

People are hijacking your thread because if you're having ANY A* matches, you don't have a problem. Nobody gets tons of them, so you're asking for a solution to a non-problem.

As far as "why does so-and-so get A* matches all the time" goes, here's the answer: they're playing TEW 2007.

[WeeMan]

Nope, just look in some WCW diary's from TEW 08 - they're getting A's and A*'s with Hogan, Goldberg, Sting, Savage... I'd just like to have it as well, and I'm asking for the product I need to achieve that... So if anyone has any product that could work for me, please help.