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Unread 06-01-2012, 03:48 AM
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Despite the adverts this is not "drag and drop" booking and I find it far too tedious to book a single event. "Drag and drop" implies having one single page where I can do all the booking rather than going from menu to menu.

My second biggest niggle is trying to book a card to MY liking. My first card I was told the fans were expecting a 70/30 ratio of angles and matches. Has any wrestling fan ever actually gone to a show and said "I better have exactly thirty percent story lines or I'll be mad as hell"

I am an old school fan I I like having a few angles going in with a large undercard with little to no angles. I feel like I cannot do this.

Please I beg you to make your next game truly drag and drop so I can book an entire event in seconds instead of taking a half hour or more just to cycle through endless menus.
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Unread 06-01-2012, 03:52 AM
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The booking screens just take some getting used to, that's not a big deal.

As for the 70/30 ratio, that's in your promotion's product. I would change it to 80% matches, and you won't get that penalty again.
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Unread 06-01-2012, 03:53 AM
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There's a separate suggestion forum for suggestions:

http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum...play.php?f=167

And you can change the angle/match ratio to your liking. 70/30 means it can be either 80/20 or 60/40 (a 10% leeway). You would be surprised how many fans complain yearly about the amount of angles in WrestleMania for example.
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Unread 06-01-2012, 06:25 AM
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"Drag and drop" implies having one single page where I can do all the booking rather than going from menu to menu.
I'm sorry that the feature wasn't clear enough for you. "Drag and drop" meant that you could drag a worker's name when booking, rather than using purely menus as in the previous iteration. For reference, this was clearly explained in the game's developer's journal, so it was not intentionally misleading.

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My second biggest niggle is trying to book a card to MY liking. My first card I was told the fans were expecting a 70/30 ratio of angles and matches. Has any wrestling fan ever actually gone to a show and said "I better have exactly thirty percent story lines or I'll be mad as hell"
Perhaps not, but many have gone to a show and thought "there was far too little actual wrestling for me". As this is a game and not reality, that mindset has to be simulated by figures, and as the player has to abide by those figures it would not make sense to hide or sugar-coat them. Telling you the actual ratio is far more user-friendly than a vague "you had too little action" message.

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I am an old school fan I I like having a few angles going in with a large undercard with little to no angles. I feel like I cannot do this.
You can do this, however you would need to be running a promotion that is set up in that way. Being able to pick any promotion and run it "your way" would not make sense in the context of the game, as some are specifically modern promotions, some are sports entertainment, etc, etc. From the tone of your post it sounds like you may have simply chosen badly when it comes to your starting promotion, unaware that the simulation is quite nuanced and you can't simply do whatever you want. While you are in control of the promotion, you cannot simply ignore its history, style, and existing fans, you must work within those constraints


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Please I beg you to make your next game truly drag and drop so I can book an entire event in seconds instead of taking a half hour or more just to cycle through endless menus.
Irrespective of whether the "drag and drop" that you are talking about was added, you will still never be able to book a card in seconds - TEW is simply too deep and booking requires too much strategy. While the booking engine could be made more streamlined and easier to use, a deep booking mode that requires thought and time is absolutely fundamental to what TEW is, and from the sounds of it, is not what you are looking for. I would suggest you try EWR, my freeware game, which does allow the quick booking that you are asking for, and is more of a "pick up and play" \ "coffee break" game, whereas TEW requires far more time (and gives far more satisfaction as a result, but that's the trade-off).
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Unread 06-01-2012, 06:45 AM
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FWIW, if the original poster really just wants to book say, WWE, but book it however he wants, just go to the editor and change the match ratio expected.

Also, you mentioned that fans never go expecting "exactly" a percentage. This is true and the game also reflects that despite Adam not mentioning it. If the ratio is set to 70% matches, you can get away with 10% more or less. That gives you a pretty wide range. If you set it to 80% matches that means you can book a show with anywhere between 30% and 10% angles. That should make you pretty happy, yes?

Edit: No game is perfect and no game is for everyone. TEW10 has it's faults, but has it's awesomeness as well. It is most certainly a time consuming game. This can either be a fault or a perk depending on your perspective. I will say this though, Adam has strived to make every release significantly better and more user friendly than the one that came before it.
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Unread 06-01-2012, 10:16 AM
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I am an old school fan I I like having a few angles going in with a large undercard with little to no angles. I feel like I cannot do this.
You actually can do this, though. It doesn't matter where you get your angles in on the card as far as the match ratio penalty is concerned.

I'd suggest creating your own promotion with the match ratio and product you desire.
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Unread 06-05-2012, 12:42 PM
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I'll be the mean one, and the straight shooter.

The problem is, Foamhead, that you just don't know how to play the game. Read up on it, become educated on the topic, then decide.

TEW can be pretty simple, just have to make it that way. Or, it can be extremely complicated.

On the other hand, I think EWR is still around.
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Unread 06-05-2012, 01:23 PM
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TEW's help file details product settings. Give it a read and you'll be able to figure out how you need to tailor your settings to create the type of promotion you're looking to run.
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As long as we keep running storylines in our head, as soon as we get into the tempo of our own booking style, the games becomes much more easy to play. And this coming from a guy that constantly defends more user friendly booking options in future versions. The gist of the game is easy. Having a story to tell, getting use to the routine of telling them, and booking will become more and more of a pleasure.
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Unread 06-05-2012, 04:10 PM
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I'll be the mean one, and the straight shooter.

The problem is, Foamhead, that you just don't know how to play the game. Read up on it, become educated on the topic, then decide.

TEW can be pretty simple, just have to make it that way. Or, it can be extremely complicated.

On the other hand, I think EWR is still around.
This. Start playing and make mistakes! Your first game isn't going to be exactly what you want. Get in there and mess around! You'll find nice little shortcuts. When there is something you need to know or have a question, ask in the small questions thread! I was stuck on EWR for 5 years before I finally gave TEW a fair shot and I'm so glad that I did. It is extremely rewarding, you just have to get in there, mess around, make mistakes, ask questions, etc. Soon you will be very good at the game and it will be incredibly fun!
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Unread 06-05-2012, 07:25 PM
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You know, Brother Foamhead, you sound like a good candidate to try one of my training fed games. You'd have a small roster so you wouldn't have to book an overwhelming number of segments and you could take on the added complexities at a manageable pace. I'd be happy to PM setup instructions to get you started if you'd like.
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Unread 06-05-2012, 08:04 PM
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You know, Brother Foamhead, you sound like a good candidate to try one of my training fed games. You'd have a small roster so you wouldn't have to book an overwhelming number of segments and you could take on the added complexities at a manageable pace. I'd be happy to PM setup instructions to get you started if you'd like.
Is this a TEW 10 scenario or a whole different game?
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Unread 06-05-2012, 08:20 PM
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I guess you could consider it a scenario of sorts. I set the promotion up so I can focus more on training talent and let company growth take care of itself.
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Unread 06-05-2012, 10:05 PM
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I can book in five minutes in TEW what would take me half an hour in EWR.

While I was a huge fan of EWR back in the day, for me to go back to it now would be like making fire with two sticks instead of just whipping out a cigarette lighter.
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Unread 06-07-2012, 01:27 AM
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Now that I've piddled with it I figured out the huge mistake I was making and booking is much much less tedious. I misunderstood some of the features and this is what caused the frustration.

Now my main hangup is I have a game of EWR I want to convert and it seems like it would be a ton of work. Oh well.
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