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Don't watch WWE but saw pics of last night's ppv. Nash is in excellent shape. It's too bad he didn't put that much effort into his physique in the late 1990s when he was still relevant. From 97-00 he had periods of fatness. It always bugged me seeing him with a gut in WCW.
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10-24-2011, 05:47 AM
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Getting tired of so many screwy finishes. I'm also finding the shows more and more bland each time. I didn't even watch Christian vs. Sheamus I just couldn't be bothered sitting through it again.
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10-24-2011, 06:10 AM
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How were storylines not furthered? Nash just came back and isolated Triple H, clearly setting up a feud between them. Sheamus and Orton beat men clean they've been feuding with for a while now. Miz and R Truth destroyed the main event once again.
It was a great PPV. Main event was really strong, Cena is such a good and underrated worker and that type of match has probably got ADR more over than he has been for about 2 years. Last edited by Carmichael : 10-24-2011 at 08:28 AM.
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10-24-2011, 07:54 AM
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Zig Swag v Air Boom - Kofi and Bourne are looking like a cohesive tag team. I hope they stay together long term.
Ziggler v Ryder - Ryder booked strong. Good exposure for Ziggler getting the opening 2 matches on a PPV. Christian v Sheamus - Solid open match. The rise of Sheamus continues. Awesome Truth v Punk/HHH - Entertaining tag match. I knew Awesome Truth would win. I didn't see Nash returning. Orton v Rhodes - Good match, predictable result. The loss shouldn't hurt Cody too much. Show v Henry - Epic big man match. I can't believe they recreated the Lesnar v Show ring break! The ROH style Holy **** chant was awesome but the crowd didn't pop near as loud as as they did in 2003. Only letdown was the announcers conveniently forgot it happened before aside from a quick mention by King. Del Rio v Cena - The decimated ring and last man standing rules added something special to the match. Good to see Cena in different clothes. Both guys stepped up and put on a thrilling match. Average PPV until the final 2 matches when it kicked into high gear. They've been sowing seeds for Survivor Series for a few months now and continued to do so on this PPV, so I'm really looking forward to SS.
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10-24-2011, 08:21 AM
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you guys are forgetting Rhodes went over Orton 2 times recently.
One was CLEAN on SD and then the next Raw when Henry watched and then sat on Orton with the chair. Selective memory is a bad thing
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10-24-2011, 08:35 AM
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2) I doubt either Sheamus or Orton are done with Christian or Rhodes. I'd like to be wrong, but I bet we see Sheamus/Christian and Orton/Rhodes probably another 2-3 times over the next month or two. 3) Miz and Truth have already been interfering in main events. They did it at the last PPV. That's what I mean. Nothing new happened at the PPV. It was the same stuff that's been happening. Nash interfered with Punk and/or HHH for the third time in four PPVs. Miz and Truth ambushed the main event for the second straight PPV. And with how redundant the WWE's matchmaking has been on their weekly shows, it's highly doubtful we saw any blow off matches at the PPV. Vengeance was always going to just sort of get in the way of the build for this year's Survivor Series, but I still hoped they'd do something to justify the PPV. Collapsing the ring isn't enough. But ultimately, I guess it probably doesn't matter. Survivor Series is what was always going to determine whether these last couple months of crap were remotely near worth it. Let's hope for something good. At the very least, I imagine Punk will get to pin someone.
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10-24-2011, 08:57 AM
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-Orton pinned Rhodes clean in a champion vs. champion match. -Rhodes won after Mark Henry distracted the ref and Orton allowing Rhodes to use his mask as a weapon. -Orton got DQ'd in their next match after hitting Rhodes with the mask. Orton then proceeded to destroy Rhodes. -Orton pinned Rhodes clean in a tag match. -Orton pinned Rhodes clean at the PPV. So only once can you even half-consider Rhodes going over Orton. Meanwhile Orton won clean three times, even kicking out of Rhodes' finisher. Great feud for Rhodes.
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10-24-2011, 09:22 AM
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Being in a feud with Orton is still a rub for Rhodes. Now he hasn't won and that is ok it just means he isn't quite there yet. I like him as IC champ and don't want him to go for the Heavyweight title. Him beating Orton would leave that as the next step for him.
Sheamus is going to go on and feud with Henry very soon. I wouldn't be shocked to see Sheamus with the Heavyweight title in a couple of months. Nash attacking HHH gives Punk and HHH a reason to lose without looking weak. So Punk may have been pinned again but it was 1 vs 2 there. I think this is a nice build for this storyline. Miz and Truth getting involved in the main event is keeping them relevant. I like that they are interfering in these matches. If you think the WWE is crap and you only like 1 show in every 14 shows why watch? WWE sticks mostly to a proven formula that has kept them as the #1 company in North America for 30 years (give a couple to WCW). It's not going to change drastically.
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10-24-2011, 10:16 AM
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I've actually been enjoying Smackdown and Superstars quite a bit recently. Both those shows have become TV that I'll watch while doing my cardio. And I'm liking them because they've largely been sticking to simple, proven wrestling formulas.
What has annoyed me about the WWE has been their bigger-picture, Raw-and-PPV stuff. That's the stuff that I think is failing miserably, and the stuff that prevents me (and a lot of others) from becoming really excited about the product. Like I said, though, hopefully they turn the corner at Survivor Series.
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10-24-2011, 10:50 AM
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They're developing Cody's acension right now. I thoroughly believe they'll go at it again for SS. Of course, if Cody doesn't get his due, it's not like it'll bother me much.
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10-24-2011, 11:40 AM
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10-24-2011, 12:13 PM
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Until recently, look at how strong they booked Henry and how many matches he won. Same for Sheamus. Winning >>>> being in the ring and losing. Infact, I would say it makes Orton look weaker that he can't beat Rhodes clean. Why not have Cody take him to the limit and then make a mistake (top rope move misses, goes back to the same move too many time, etc). Cody flips out and attacks Orton after the match. You want Rhodes to be at that level, he's got to do something that "endangers" Orton to the point of people are concerned if he can come back and beat Rhodes.
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